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View Poll Results: Do you feel it is correct to teach children that homosexuality is normal and natural?
Yes 292 50.34%
No 256 44.14%
I am unsure 32 5.52%
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:22 AM
 
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A person is gay by CHOICE period...just like it's my choice to be hetrosexual...period...it has nothing to do with the on the job experience I have, has nothing to do with my imposition on you....or anyone else...doesn't suggest that I'm going to be a bad person, bad worker, bad influence...it's my choice, and it is a very personal choice, between myself and my God. It's no one else's business what I do in the bedroom, and if I choose to have sex with two other men, or have 3 husbands, it's my life, my business....
Please please tell me you're joking? Sexual orientation refers to an enduring pattern of romantic, emotional, and/or sexual attraction to men, women, or both sexes. It has nothing to do with behavior. A gay virgin is still gay.

We do not voluntarily choose who we find attractive. You can't choose to be sexually attracted to women (unless you're bisexual). You never chose to be heterosexual. You grew up, and at some point either before or around puberty, thought that boys were cute. You did not sit there, look at both a boy and girl at 8 years old, and do a pro and con analysis and decide, "Gee, I really don't think I want to find girls attractive for the rest of my life, so I'm going to find that boy over there attractive". It doesn't work that way. Please stop telling gay people it's a choice. It's the biggest lie in all of anti-gay propaganda.

Sexual orientation, homosexuality and bisexuality

most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation.

Psychiatry and LGB people

It would appear that sexual orientation is biological in nature, determined by genetic factors (Mustanski et al, 2005) and/or the early uterine environment (Blanchard et al. 2006). Sexual orientation is therefore not a choice, though sexual behaviour clearly is.

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I'm a great cook, with a great personality, sense of humor, very dedicated friend, mother, family member....I'll give you the shirt off my back, if you need it....and I respect the fact that we're all different, all with our different cultures...but to hate someone, or fear them, b/c they have a different sexual prefrence is just down right primitive...which is what religion does, it's controlling and stagnates growth...
If you are so open minded, why are you so unwilling to listen to those of us who know better about this than you?



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No one teaches a kid to be gay, a kid chooses, for him/herself...
They don't choose it. They are born gay or straight or bisexual. A choice indicates voluntary decision. For example, "I'm going to choose to have pizza for dinner tonight". Nobody wakes up at 5 years old, and says, "Gee, I'm going to be emotionally and sexually attracted to men for the rest of my life".
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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A person is gay by CHOICE period...just like it's my choice to be hetrosexual...period...it has nothing to do with the on the job experience I have, has nothing to do with my imposition on you....or anyone else...doesn't suggest that I'm going to be a bad person, bad worker, bad influence...it's my choice, and it is a very personal choice, between myself and my God. It's no one else's business what I do in the bedroom, and if I choose to have sex with two other men, or have 3 husbands, it's my life, my business....
do tell us about the thought process, how old you were and the life experience that made you decide to be straight. was it a difficult decision? were you attracted to both sexes and picked one?
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:40 AM
 
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EPIC fail. you're talking to FIRST HAND PROOF that you're incorrect. an UNCHOSEN GAY PERSON. and no i did NOT 'choose' to be gay, i actually had a hard time DEALING with the FACT that i was gay. you don't have hard times dealing with choices, you just make another choice.

again, how can you say something when proof is in front of you for you and others too see.

you've made an EPIC FOOL of yourself.

Basically you're not interested in the 'truth' you've PROVEN that with proof proving you wrong, you're interested in your CHOSEN PROVEN WRONG AGENDA


I wouldn't attack too hard. The poster has a generally good message.

Only wrong on the "chosen" part, IMO, but otherwise at least very accepting and understanding.
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:55 AM
 
Location: California
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Default A Question to The Gay folks

How old were you when you knew you were Gay?
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Old 01-06-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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How old were you when you knew you were Gay?
The first time I can remember consciously being aware that I was gay - and internally using the word "gay" to describe myself - was when I was 10 (kinda coincided with the onset of puberty).

If you ask my parents, they'll say they started to suspect it when I was about 6.
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:10 PM
 
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I knew about the age of 4 or 5 years old. Children know very early on what they are attracted too but really don't know how to express it probably until puberty kicks in. Realize that gay kids are constantly exposed to a heterosexual world especially through the media and suddenly realize "ok I'm not like everybody else".
As for it being taught it's normal & natural well I had a Sex Education class in junior high and was taught everything I needed to know about the human reproductive system & all facets of human sexuality as well. The class also covered the consequences & responsibilty of having sex since this was in the age of Aids. It was a invaluable class & let's face it most parents never really talk to their kids about sex.
I honestly believe that homosexuals are born that way so to me it's "natuaral" and "normal" just like heterosexuals don't think about what sex they are attracted to either.
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Lower east side of Toronto
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The first time I can remember consciously being aware that I was gay - and internally using the word "gay" to describe myself - was when I was 10 (kinda coincided with the onset of puberty).

If you ask my parents, they'll say they started to suspect it when I was about 6.
Years ago I remember my wife baby sitting a couple of young kids - a young boy and girl - the boy...was they say in a classic was was a "flamer'...he ran about as if he was a five year old fashion designer..a little mini-gay man...it made me think that some are born just a little different. It was not conditioning...he was just what he was -

at the time I never thought for a moment "hey this little kid is gay as a rose" (old saying)...I just thought he was different...that was about 25 years ago...What I wonder about if he was not born in these modern times where 'gay" is encouraged or instilled or institutionalized - If - the kid who liked female things MIGHT have taken on a female partner...just because a male is femalish does not mean that they are not attracted to those like themselves GIRLS...?

This is my premise - that if society left kids alone they would decide what they liked and what they did not like as much.. Why do we insist that if a male shows female traits that they are going to settle on being only attracted to males...maybe the kid grew up to be a gay lesbian boy that liked girls - I have seen adult gay males fall totally in love with a beautiful female..so - maybe we should just shut up and leave people alone to their own device?
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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I don't think the schools should get involved with this. I think it only should be up to the parents, and only when the kid asks about sex in general and the parent feels that they're old enough to hear about it - perhaps at puberty.
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Old 01-06-2012, 12:30 PM
 
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do tell us about the thought process, how old you were and the life experience that made you decide to be straight. was it a difficult decision? were you attracted to both sexes and picked one?
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Old 01-08-2012, 01:27 PM
 
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A person is gay by CHOICE period...just like it's my choice to be hetrosexual...period...it has nothing to do with the on the job experience I have, has nothing to do with my imposition on you....or anyone else...doesn't suggest that I'm going to be a bad person, bad worker, bad influence...it's my choice, and it is a very personal choice, between myself and my God. It's no one else's business what I do in the bedroom, and if I choose to have sex with two other men, or have 3 husbands, it's my life, my business....

I'm a great cook, with a great personality, sense of humor, very dedicated friend, mother, family member....I'll give you the shirt off my back, if you need it....and I respect the fact that we're all different, all with our different cultures...but to hate someone, or fear them, b/c they have a different sexual prefrence is just down right primitive...which is what religion does, it's controlling and stagnates growth...

Believe what you want to believe, fine, you dislike the life styles of gays, that your peroggative, however, don't project that on me...or expect a law to be organized in favor of your belief....in the stead respect the privet lives of people and stay out of it, and enjoy them for who they are, the respect they show you...if they try and harm you or touch you in any way, then you have a right to cry foul play...but until then, stay out of they're lives and take care of your own. Get your own house in order before you go off trying to take care of someone else's home.

Good God, I have two girlfriends who are gay and love each other dearly, they are more then an asset to our communty, and do more then most others in our neighborhood. They possess respect for the lives of others, and for the personal space of others, and I'd rather spend time with them, then my own family, b/c they're fun, they don't gossip, they look for the positive in life, and own a lot more common sense then most people I work with...not to mention are polite and caring about others...

yanno, there are a whole lot of gay relationships out there that do work...and are good relationships...but in a hetrosexual relationship, you people don't care about the husband who beats his wife and kids, or the husband that sexually abuses his kids...it's a real sick world we live in...when you concern yourselves more about the gays then you do about the real issues at hand.

I don't give a darn what they do in bed...to me, they are people, not gay, but human freakin beings...and a lot more responsible, and giving then most people I know, and are having a hard time making it financially, however, they won't sign up for welfare, like a lot of people do and abuse the system....they are committed to they're families, and to the community...but they're freakin gay...SO WHAT...they are not hurting anyone, and least of all would they even consider hurting a child or making a child believe it's better to be gay...

I don't know what you people are afraid of....maybe your own sexuality????? But leave the gays alone...for crying out loud, and lets get down to some real business at hand, like our failing economy....

No one teaches a kid to be gay, a kid chooses, for him/herself...
......are you serious???

how did you choose to be straight? Did you flip a coin? Are you equally attracted sexually to men and women, you just conciously decide that you're going to go straight in every instance?

Who chooses who they are attracted to?
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