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Looks like housekeeping needed to have invested in some giant swifter dusters.
anyone who finds humor in this even needs to have their head examined (and you've demonstrated that you have a loose grasp for reality).
Again, you are purposefully misinterpreting what was being argued.
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and that's another misinterpretation of what was being discussed
the claim: Only bombs can make explosions or makes sounds of explosions
This is a faulty claim since there are many things that can explode or even sound like explosions.
Transformers can explode (we know that the towers were filled with them)
Generators can explode (and the WTC towers had four floors dedicated to generators)
Falling bodies sounded like explosions (as related by fire firefighters and witnesses on scene - this was included in the Naudet Bros film on 9/11)
Cars can explode (and get a couple hundred, due to the garage beneath both towers, that's alot of gasoline that can ignite)
No where did anyone state that the cause of damage was due to these items. The refutation is in the erroneous belief that only bombs can explode or make sounds of explosions.
anyone who finds humor in this even needs to have their head examined (and you've demonstrated that you have a loose grasp for reality).
Again, you are purposefully misinterpreting what was being argued.
Sorry, but is it rather humorous to imagine the items mentioned causing any sound akin to such a massive explosion after a reported series of apparently timed "booms". Little explosions at varying intervals perhaps, comparatively speaking to what we were shown, sure, some noise, sure, but I don't think it would cause the very loud rhythmic consistent "boom-boom-boom-boom" that was reported by firemen.
We saw computer generated smoke (remember movie explosions such as "Independence Day"? It looked "real" didn't it?) while what was really happening was a standard bottom-up controlled demo.
Anyway, all of this stuff is moot because it is based on media fakery and it can't be looked at as if it was genuine live video or sound. That is the beauty of the whole plan! The hoax is right there in plain site but we are so conditioned to believe everything on the news that we can't see it!
Thus with all the arguments and circular reasoning and defending of positions- and arguing minutia that never brings a satisfactory answer because it is based on studying phoney material to begin with.
If there were monitors, solvents, generators, etc, then, sure they exploded along with everything else during the bottom-up controlled demo that we were NOT shown.
Sorry, but is it rather humorous to imagine the items mentioned causing any sound akin to such a massive explosion after a reported series of apparently timed "booms".
Again, you show that you are not understanding the argument, and are continuing your line of thought from an erroneous belief.
110 story office building contains THOUSANDS of items. All of them exploding at once or in groups, can be loud enough to sound like explosions.
Air pressure from the floors sagging forced out through the windows sounded like explosions to witnesses.
Again, the jumpers from the towers, were described as explosions, until people realized that they were actually PEOPLE who wiling jumped to their deaths. This was related in the Naudet Bros film about 9/11
The mechanical floors ( 4 of them in the WTC towers) were football field size floors. You know what are on these floors? Everything from generators to transformers. These floors are used to help get electricity to run through the buildings. and are the back-up system to the towers during brown and black outs (so that the building keeps on running).
There was a garage system under the towers, that holds what? Things called automobiles. What do automobiles run on? Gasoline. what happens to gasoline when subjected to heat? Explosions.
And no, nothing were "timed". There were claims of 1 explosion or two, but not HUNDREDS of explosions in succession (which is the signature of a controlled demoltion)
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We saw computer generated smoke (remember movie explosions such as "Independence Day"? It looked "real" didn't it?) while what was really happening was a standard bottom-up controlled demo.
again, You are so out of touch with reality.
EXPLAIN HOW WITNESSES WHO WERE THERE IN PERSON, SAW ANY CGI EFFECTS OF SMOKE????
You've avoided answering this question time and time again. Tell me what technology was used in 2001 that creates CGI in person.
We saw computer generated smoke (remember movie explosions such as "Independence Day"? It looked "real" didn't it?) while what was really happening was a standard bottom-up controlled demo.
I'm going to separate out this claim, because you repeatedly aserted that CGI was used. and you've avoided answering an important question:
HOW DID THOSE WHO WERE THERE THAT DAY, IN PERSON SEE CGI OF PLANES OR SMOKE!
Tell us what technology was used, and back it up. I'm not talking about videos or media coverage. Tell us how witnesses, in person, saw CGI effects in person. They saw the planes (tell how this was faked using CGI). They saw the smoke and fire (tell us how this was faked using CGI)
Sorry, but is it rather humorous to imagine the items mentioned causing any sound akin to such a massive explosion after a reported series of apparently timed "booms".
To find that humorous is obscene. The obscenity is magnified by its ignorance.
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Anyway, all of this stuff is moot because it is based on media fakery and it can't be looked at as if it was genuine live video or sound.
There we go again, the insane assertion the the real time experience of millions of people was mere media fakery. This is not just run of the mill conspiracy theory wackiness. It is a symptom of genuine mental illness.
EXPLAIN HOW WITNESSES WHO WERE THERE IN PERSON, SAW ANY CGI EFFECTS OF SMOKE????
It's been pointed out earlier in the thread that most of the "witnesses" were media and media related people- some of whom changed their original stories. It is interesting to look back at the first news broadcasts and hear how different "witnesses" saw different things, including orbs, missiles, windowless large planes, small commuter planes, military planes, passenger planes, no planes, etc.
As well, there may have been some kind of street level and up smoke screen generated around the towers to conceal the controlled demo from any onlookers. But IMO, onlookers would be few. I think the place was cleared out long before anyone was in danger.
It must be some kind of mind programming that causes people to THINK they have heard from "thousands" of witnesses. In all honesty, have you heard thousands of eye witness reports?
It's been pointed out earlier in the thread that most of the "witnesses" were media and media related people- some of whom changed their original stories. It is interesting to look back at the first news broadcasts and hear how different "witnesses" saw different things, including orbs, missiles, windowless large planes, small commuter planes, military planes, passenger planes, no planes, etc.
As well, there may have been some kind of street level and up smoke screen generated around the towers to conceal the controlled demo from any onlookers. But IMO, onlookers would be few. I think the place was cleared out long before anyone was in danger.
It must be some kind of mind programming that causes people to THINK they have heard from "thousands" of witnesses. In all honesty, have you heard thousands of eye witness reports?
It's been pointed out earlier in the thread that most of the "witnesses" were media and media related people- some of whom changed their original stories.
And of course, this is a lie. Most of the witnesses were ordinary people on the streets of New York that day or people watching it real time on television... all over the world. And if they cleared them out ahead of time, where are the thousands of missing people, to include my cousin Maggie Alario?
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It is interesting to look back at the first news broadcasts and hear how different "witnesses" saw different things, including orbs, missiles, windowless large planes, small commuter planes, military planes, passenger planes, no planes, etc.
Welcome to the real universe. It is a messy place.
Your belief that it was all media fakery is insane and insulting.
I cannot conceive of how despicable a person must be to promote such obscenity.
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