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Old 01-16-2012, 11:12 AM
 
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Does anyone else notice that almost all Third World countries have very conservative societies whereas almost all First world countries tend to have societies that are liberal?

The statistics are stunning. It seems like conservatism in a society is directly proportional with a low standard of living whereas the opposite is true for liberalism. The more conservative a society, the more likely it is to be plagued with things like: crime, poverty, illiteracy, inequality, political instability etc. On the other hand, the more liberal a society the more likely it is to be blessed with low crime rates, high levels of education, wealth, political stability, and less inequality among its citizens.

In fact if you study the Human Development Index (HDI) of countries around the world, you'll see that the most liberal countries - Norway, Sweden, Canada - consistently have the highest development rankings. On the other hand countries with the most conservative societies e.g. Pakistan, Nigeria, Uganda - consistently have the lowest development rankings.

It would be fair to make the deduction that a prerequisite of been a Third World country is having a conservative society and the a prerequisite of been considered a First World country is having a liberal society. Adding validity to my theory, even America which is considered to be fairly conservative among first world nations would be classed as wildly liberal among Third World Countries.

I know many conservatives will not be happy with this finding but the facts are there for all to see. Why do you think this pattern exists throughout the world?
How are you classifying these countries as "conservative" or "liberal"? Trying to classify every country by the american political framework may make for fun BS session political chatting, but isn't really a serious point.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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Does anyone else notice that almost all Third World countries have very conservative societies whereas almost all First world countries tend to have societies that are liberal?

The statistics are stunning. It seems like conservatism in a society is directly proportional with a low standard of living whereas the opposite is true for liberalism. The more conservative a society, the more likely it is to be plagued with things like: crime, poverty, illiteracy, inequality, political instability etc. On the other hand, the more liberal a society the more likely it is to be blessed with low crime rates, high levels of education, wealth, political stability, and less inequality among its citizens.

In fact if you study the Human Development Index (HDI) of countries around the world, you'll see that the most liberal countries - Norway, Sweden, Canada - consistently have the highest development rankings. On the other hand countries with the most conservative societies e.g. Pakistan, Nigeria, Uganda - consistently have the lowest development rankings.

It would be fair to make the deduction that a prerequisite of been a Third World country is having a conservative society and the a prerequisite of been considered a First World country is having a liberal society. Adding validity to my theory, even America which is considered to be fairly conservative among first world nations would be classed as wildly liberal among Third World Countries.

I know many conservatives will not be happy with this finding but the facts are there for all to see. Why do you think this pattern exists throughout the world?
Please don't imply that correlation is causation. These two have absolutely no relationship and Singapore is a counterexample that illustrates that.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:15 AM
 
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The conservatism in Third World countries tend to be more social than economic. They are anti-gay, anti-women's right, anti-equality, anti-education... much like the social conservatives here in the US.
Maybe you are on to something here because Washington DC is a 3rd world country with the highest rate of hate crimes vs. gays, rate of abortion, dismal educational levels and rampant violence against blacks.

Seriously though, this is a funny thread. It's kinda like watching Beavis and Butthead try to think something through and then coming up with some absurd logic.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Does anyone else notice that almost all Third World countries have very conservative societies whereas almost all First world countries tend to have societies that are liberal?

The statistics are stunning. It seems like conservatism in a society is directly proportional with a low standard of living whereas the opposite is true for liberalism. The more conservative a society, the more likely it is to be plagued with things like: crime, poverty, illiteracy, inequality, political instability etc. On the other hand, the more liberal a society the more likely it is to be blessed with low crime rates, high levels of education, wealth, political stability, and less inequality among its citizens.

In fact if you study the Human Development Index (HDI) of countries around the world, you'll see that the most liberal countries - Norway, Sweden, Canada - consistently have the highest development rankings. On the other hand countries with the most conservative societies e.g. Pakistan, Nigeria, Uganda - consistently have the lowest development rankings.

It would be fair to make the deduction that a prerequisite of been a Third World country is having a conservative society and the a prerequisite of been considered a First World country is having a liberal society. Adding validity to my theory, even America which is considered to be fairly conservative among first world nations would be classed as wildly liberal among Third World Countries.

I know many conservatives will not be happy with this finding but the facts are there for all to see. Why do you think this pattern exists throughout the world?
Interesting observation. Please explain to us, in what way are those countries you describe conservative, conservative? Are the capitalist? Do they have social safety nets? Perhaps you can flesh this out for us.
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Old 01-16-2012, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Texas
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It is true that the happiest people in the world live in countries that are:

1. Socially liberal

2. Provide a generous economic safety net for their citizens
Look at the current situation in Europe, especially in Greece. Just because they were happier that doesn't mean they continue to be happy when the sh*t hits the fan. Providing a generous economic safety net and still allowing a lot of freedom is unsustainable in the longrun.
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Reality
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But notice how the conservatives have remained quiet so far? Guess the truth hurts...
Conservatives are usually sleeping at this time of the morning because they have to go to work to pay for all the liberal policies and programs the limo liberals come up with.
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:12 PM
 
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New Hampshire represents the essence of liberalism. It is a Democratic state with a libertarian streak. New Hampshire is as far as you can get from Third World conservatism. Their philosophy is: "live free or die".
It's always easy to be a liberal when you make it impossible for "undesirable" people (ie anyone of color) to ever move into the area in large numbers.

Look at places where Liberalism is like second nature to the residents, you won't see a black/latino person anywhere near the Kennedy compound in MA unless they're cutting grass or cleaning the gutters and liberals make sure it stays that way. According to many liberals, especially in the Northeast, their quality of life is more important than the lives of other less important humans.
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:16 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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But notice how the conservatives have remained quiet so far? Guess the truth hurts...


Personally I don't answer to a lot of BS and I find this thread to be all BS.
It seems some of you liberals have a lot of learning to do. Until then keep believing the BS you are spreading around. Ignorance is bliss and you are full of it. Bliss that is.
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:18 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Do you understand the concept of relative vs. absolute growth? NY probably did grow in absolute numbers, but not relative. That's why it lost two house seats.


I think it is clear that they do not understand a lot of things. Take this thread for instance.
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Old 01-16-2012, 12:29 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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How's this for a response? The richest, most successful, and stable nation the planet has ever seen or likely ever will see is a conservative nation.


Now this is really going to confuse the liberal brain.
Oops liberal/brain= oxymoron.
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