Men and Abortion---Reclaiming Fatherhood (Wisconsin, legal, education, states)

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by janelle144

Anyone who knows about the latest science findings knows that isn't true. Our DNA is there from the start making us a person as soon as fertilization happens.

When are you people going to stop beating this dead horse and appreciate that just because YOU BELIEVE it to be so, doesn't make it so.

YOU believe that zygote = baby. I and many others do not. YOU make your life decisions guided by your beliefs and let the rest of us do the same.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

[janelle144]

Originally Posted by ray1945

When are you people going to stop beating this dead horse and appreciate that just because YOU BELIEVE it to be so, doesn't make it so.

YOU believe that zygote = baby. I and many others do not. YOU make your life decisions guided by your beliefs and let the rest of us do the same.

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

Doesn't matter what you or I believe, science is the final voice on this. Just like evolution. Some accept it and some never will no matter what science tells them.

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by janelle144

Doesn't matter what you or I believe, science is the final voice on this. Just like evolution. Some accept it and some never will no matter what science tells them.

A link please to a verifiable scientific source that states a zygote is the same as a baby.

[janelle144]

The topic of this thread is Men Reclaiming Fatherhood. Why don't we stay on topic? Do your own research.

[ray1945]

Originally Posted by janelle144

The topic of this thread is Men Reclaiming Fatherhood. Why don't we stay on topic? Do your own research.

Nice. You opened the door to this off-topic tangent, so you can get off the high horse...

You can't find a link....because one doesn't exist.

[Arus]

Originally Posted by janelle144

The topic of this thread is Men Reclaiming Fatherhood. Why don't we stay on topic? Do your own research.

Meaning you don't have support or links, and are just making stuff up. again.

This thread is about abortion as well, and throughout the thread, you as well as the other women haters have stated that a fetus = baby

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by Who?Me?!

A man could ASK his wife to quit drinking or smoking...he has no right to tell her.....

What about the rights of the baby who is inside her?

[Arus]

Originally Posted by Harrier

What about the rights of the baby who is inside her?

what baby? Im sorry, but its a fetus, not a baby

and the law already says that a fetus has no rights. rights are given upon birth.

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by Arus

This thread is about abortion as well, and throughout the thread, you as well as the other women haters have stated that a fetus = baby

Woman hater - someone who believes that life has value and should not be wantonly destroyed because it is convenient.

If a woman thinks this - then she hates herself.

(From the Liberal dictionary).

[twinArmageddons]

Originally Posted by janelle144

Doesn't matter what you or I believe, science is the final voice on this.

And science states that a zygote is not the same as a newborn, just like an acorn is not hte same as an oak tree, or an egg is not the same as a chicken.