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Old 01-29-2012, 08:29 PM
 
Location: TX
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Just to clarify here, I'm not suggesting we ban this either.

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Yes I have, and all of the players with brain damage were wearing them.
Yes, some people still get concussions and even brain damage playing football. And SOMETIMES, it isn't because the helmet was either poor quality or not fitted correctly or because they were tackled wrong, etc. But as I detailed for you after that single line you quoted, there are multiple benefits to playing football for the majority of students who do so. Same as the reason we allow kids to ride in a car at all; the vast majority of the time, it serves a helpful purpose, even in light of automobile accidents where children die. There is nothing to gain from riding in a car full of cigarette smoke, and there's nothing a kid can do to protect himself from it either. Not the case with football, so it's still a questionable comparison.
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Old 01-29-2012, 08:42 PM
 
Location: mancos
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My older brother died in a house fire and the death certificate says smoking cigs as one of the causes of death even though the fire started from the fireplace.freaking liars, just want to pad the statistics
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Old 01-29-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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My older brother died in a house fire and the death certificate says smoking cigs as one of the causes of death even though the fire started from the fireplace.freaking liars, just want to pad the statistics
That is because there is a box on the death certificate asking if smoking contributed to death.
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:01 PM
 
Location: mancos
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Well he also drove a car! where does it say that it had to do with his death! freaking liars
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:09 PM
 
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Buying into your own bull are you?

ah..... that explains the high and mighty "lookt-at-me-now" attitude coming from your end. "ex's" are the worst.
I know the reality of it first hand. I think it would do smokers a bit of good to grow up and be real with themselves. When I did smoke I knew it was killing me. I knew not to subject others to the habit. I'm not sure what the big deal is in realizing this simple thing. I suppose you have to keep yourself in a state of denial to go through it day after day. I get that. Deep down you know. You know when you wake up in the morning and your lungs feel heavy and burning that it's wrong. Women know when they're laying in bed and they get a whiff of their own hair and it smells like an ashtray. You know it when you find that 4 or 5 flights of stairs are winding you. There's nothing high and mighty about it. It's the simple truth that you indeed face in your quiet moments. Hopefully, one day, you'll manage to quit. In the mean time, keep the smoke away from kids.

eta: as an FYI that cloudy brain fog you get actually goes away when you quit. There's more oxygen getting to the brain. It's pretty cool.
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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Well he also drove a car! where does it say that it had to do with his death! freaking liars
If you have an issue with death the certificate you need to speak with the certifying doctor. Venting on here is pointless.
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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according to a report in the July issue of Archives of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery, one of the JAMA/Archives journals.
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Author Affiliations: Department of Epidemiology and Public Health, Miller School of Medicine, University of Miami, Miami, Florida (Mr Bandiera and Dr Lee); Legacy, Washington, DC (Dr Kalaydjian Richardson); and Genetic Epidemiology Research Branch, National Institute of Mental Health, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, Maryland (Drs He and Merikangas).
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according to a new study in the medical journal Pediatrics.
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Well that took a total of ten minutes. SOMEONE didn't read my challenge well enough I guess......Google is not your freind on this one. Remember when I said this is what will separate those who have done the research for themselves from those who have just bought what they have been fed?

]Let me be clear, I'm looking fior an independant study, conducted by a nuetral org. NOT funded or connected in any way with drug companies or the medical community in whole or in part, or the gov't, or any org that would stand to gain from the results. I'm not saying your above studies aren't credible just because they are connected to the MC, but that was not the challenge I gave you and others
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:19 PM
 
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Published b the Lung Association of Saskatchewan, study conducted by
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[2]Well that took a total of ten minutes. SOMEONE didn't read my challenge well enough I guess......Google is not your freind on this one. Remember when I said this is what will separate those who have done the research for themselves from those who have just bought what they have been fed?

]Let me be clear, I'm looking fior an independant study, conducted by a nuetral org. NOT funded or connected in any way with drug companies or the medical community in whole or in part, or the gov't, or any org that would stand to gain from the results. I'm not saying your above studies aren't credible just because they are connected to the MC, but that was not the challenge I gave you and others
Your whole post is pretty confusing.
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:25 PM
 
Location: mancos
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If you have an issue with death the certificate you need to speak with the certifying doctor. Venting on here is pointless.
My whole family has ,the creeps wont budge at all. So smoking will always be contributed to cause of death.not venting just letting folks know the lies being spread. It maybe pointless for you but not us. hope no one in your family does anything not PC that will be attached to their death cert. cause it is wrong,very wrong
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Old 01-29-2012, 09:26 PM
 
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I have chronic respiratory problems due to second hand smoke.
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