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Wow. While the cream of the cream doesn't normally go to offshore med schools. DO programs are a regional thing, bigger in the midwest and Texas.
However your lack of understanding is evident in the fact that you pass judgement on doctors who may have started at say St. George's but finished residency and Cleveland Clinic. Your comments show no knowledge of medical training.
I know that the best pre-med students go to the best schools and receive the best background/foundation for their future medical careers. Second, third, and fourth best pre-med students have to find their medical educations elsewhere, which is where offshore and DO schools come into play.
I'm not saying that there aren't good doctors who graduated from offshore/DO schools, but, if I have to pick from a list of doctors, all of whom are unknown to me, I will avoid those who did not graduate from a reputable American medical school.
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Second best? I think they all get their degree at the end. That is the end game.
Sure, there is no difference in ability between the person who graduated #1 in the class and the person who graduated last.
We don't win as a country if the guy is a well educated socialist. That is the reverse of what the goals of this country were when we got started and I don't care if you find a left wing-nut who is supposedly smart.
I think Obama got pet student good grades because they were grooming him for politics. We knew he was a hard drug user who had no females come forward to claim they dated him before his marriage to his mannish wife.
IMO there is a reason he won't release his school records is his writings. I think he probably wrote like a radical communist from his heart and that would never go well with USA citizens.
If Obama had good things in his school records and writings he would be showing them off. Not showing them off tells you things were not so good for him to show off. It is that simple IMO.
And Clinton refused to ever reveal his grades.
I think it comes down to grades don't matter to liberals when it's a Socialist like Obama, Clinton or Gore but if it's a GOP or Conservative then they matter a lot.
Yep, exactly. The theory was always that critical thinking would develop on its own. If you expose a student to a specialized subject, their general reasoning skills would increase as they mastered that subject.
The problem is, it doesn't work.
They are now paying more attention to how something is taught, not just what is taught. One of the big ones is using Bloom's Taxonomy of Learning, which places various types of learning into hierarchies. Educators then design their methods of both instruction and assement/testing to aim at the higher levels of the hierarchy.
Earning an A on a true/false quiz demonstrates nowhere near the level of learning that earning an A on an assessment that emphasizes analyzing and synthesizing the material. The effect is that if the student wants to earn an A on the second exam, they will need not only to memorize the subject matter but also step up their critical thinking abilities to a new level.
The thing is, I see this all throughout society among people who are supposedly 'educated' at the tertiary level - or even higher. There is no changing it for the time-being either because the premise in higher education is that students should drive not only the curriculum but the expected outcomes as well. Education is a business now, and until we see it as something other than that, we're going to continue to use higher education to develop technical skills at the expense of critical and analytical thinking skills. The thing is, our society still produces brilliant technicians and innovators but our system of higher education cannot really take credit for their development. They're merely associated with each other.
But we're lacking something when we have leaders who cannot process the environment around them in a way that is critical and takes a variety of data into account. The result has been, and will continue to be, a class of leaders who are wealthy but don't really have any idea what to do with their wealth and power except to apply it to more of the things that they already understand and can process. That will continue to drive a wedge between their world and the world that the rest of us live in and work with daily. Of course, being products of the same education system, most of us probably won't have any better idea of what to do with our collective clout either.
We're entering the social, economic, and political abyss here.
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