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Old 02-10-2012, 11:04 PM
 
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"The former third-grade teacher charged with committing lewd acts on students was paid $40,000 to drop an appeal of his firing, a newspaper reported Friday."

Read more: Teacher In Los Angeles Molest Case Reportedly Paid $40G To Drop Appeal Of Firing | Fox News



Shouldn't have to be this difficult to fire a teacher.

Course this $40,000 is just a drop in the bucket of what this whole thing will be costing the school district; i.e., tax payers. The district has gotten rid of all the teachers at this school and brought in an entire new crew at a cost of 5.7 million dollars and is facing millions of dollars in lawsuits from involved families, many of whom are illegal immigrants.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:28 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Where's a projectile-vomiting smilie when you need one?
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The 61-year-old recently was charged with 23 counts of lewd acts upon children, ages 6 to 10, accused of feeding his semen to some students during "tasting games" in his classroom from 2005 to 2010.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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"The former third-grade teacher charged with committing lewd acts on students was paid $40,000 to drop an appeal of his firing, a newspaper reported Friday."

Read more: Teacher In Los Angeles Molest Case Reportedly Paid $40G To Drop Appeal Of Firing | Fox News



Shouldn't have to be this difficult to fire a teacher.

Course this $40,000 is just a drop in the bucket of what this whole thing will be costing the school district; i.e., tax payers. The district has gotten rid of all the teachers at this school and brought in an entire new crew at a cost of 5.7 million dollars and is facing millions of dollars in lawsuits from involved families, many of whom are illegal immigrants.
I don't like this teacher and I question how the school handled all of this but this is compelling:

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"We were told we could not do any investigation" to avoid interfering with the criminal probe, Holmquist said. "We didn't have any evidence and we couldn't put on any witnesses. We didn't have anything to successfully defend a challenge."
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:39 PM
 
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Where's a projectile-vomiting smilie when you need one?


Yep. And this creep gets paid $40,000 to stop his "teaching."

Something is definitely wrong with the system.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:45 PM
 
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I don't like this teacher and I question how the school handled all of this but this is compelling:
Look. I think the whole system is wrong. Why are the teachers always protected? The children should be the ones who get the protection. When in doubt, a teacher should be let go. This stuff happens way too often. Kids are vulnerable. Make the schools privately run. Get rid of the Unions. Pay good teachers well. Fire the bad ones at will. That's what I'd like to see.
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Old 02-10-2012, 11:52 PM
 
Location: California
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Look. I think the whole system is wrong. Why are the teachers always protected? The children should be the ones who get the protection. When in doubt, a teacher should be let go. This stuff happens way too often. Kids are vulnerable. Make the schools privately run. Get rid of the Unions. Pay good teachers well. Fire the bad ones at will. That's what I'd like to see.
Teachers have false allegations made against them by kids sometimes so there does have to be some process that doesn't allow the immature students to play the system too.

Overall though, I agree that there should be no "ultimate" protection if someone is found guilty of a crime against students.
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Look. I think the whole system is wrong. Why are the teachers always protected? The children should be the ones who get the protection. When in doubt, a teacher should be let go. This stuff happens way too often. Kids are vulnerable. Make the schools privately run. Get rid of the Unions. Pay good teachers well. Fire the bad ones at will. That's what I'd like to see.
I am not willing to compromise due process.
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Old 02-11-2012, 12:58 AM
 
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I am not willing to compromise due process.
Due process for a legal conviction, sure. But, not for a job. People get fired everyday at the drop of a hat - many undeserving. Why should teachers be any different? Why should they get this special protection?

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Old 02-11-2012, 01:40 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Due process for a legal conviction, sure. But, not for a job. People get fired everyday at the drop of a hat - many undeserving. Why should teachers be any different? Why should they get this special protection?
There should always be some degree of due process.

[the termination of an employee should be based on facts]
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Old 02-11-2012, 01:45 AM
 
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There should always be some degree of due process.

[the termination of an employee should be based on facts]
People are fired everyday at their employer's whim - some justly; some unjustly (Juan Williams pops to mind, but there are many.) We read about it daily. Why should it be different for teachers, with whom parents are forced to entrust the care of their children?
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