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When you can point out to me where in my posts I said that, we might be able to have a discussion. I certainly included the reality of it being a preference to most women, but I never said what you are implying. I am Jewish and a woman and yes, I believe their are valid reasons for the practice for various reasons.
Ah but we ARE having a discussion despite your protests otherwise. You know, you are replying to me; hello?
But to address your post above, sure thing!
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I don't know about the "argument", but the "aesthetics" can be very compelling.
No, everybody doesn't have the choice to do anything to their child... based on what their "personal" opinion. I said you can't handle it, because you won't support the premise of "right for their family" if it is something you personally disagree with. You've already used word "abusive". One could say, circumcision fits that premise. No? After all, you don't think female circumcision should allowed. Right?
I've already talked about the differences between the two. One is a very quick and easy procedure that does NOT continually cause pain and complications throughout the childs lifetime, where as the other (female circumcision) has nothing to do with health or well being but to make sure the female does NOT enjoy sex but has pain for the rest of her life.. A boy will not have pain for the rest of his life after this procedure and will have better health because of it.
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There's a lot that can and will go wrong over the life of a child. How do you pick and choose between what you want to go about pre-emptively?
I weight the pros and cons, the risks of holding off on doing something weighted against the risks of the procedure. That's how I came to all my decisions.
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You're asking for medical/public opinion on the subject? Is it something you use (you should clarify before the person wastes time coming up with a source)?
LOL! I've already said I listen to other people's opinions, but ultimately I decide based on everything I've learned. I was actually asking the poster to back up his claim that the hybene aspect was bogus, because there have been plenty of links to back up the claim that hygene and health is a big factor as to why we should do it. So he should be willing to back up his claim that it's BS.
Yes, I'm sure that SOMEHOW infants are magically immune to pain, just for that moment when they are having a part of their body cut off!
Hey, since they can't feel it, let's just pierce and tattoo them too! Maybe we should brand them with a hot iron; after all, they can't feel it or remember it!
Good post, but it has little to do with my challenge of your statement that you are "Pro-Choice about EVERYTHING!!" So......you are except when you aren't?
And I actually think NOT circumcising is the hard choice. It's very easy to just go along with what everyone else is doing.
ROFL!! I guess it's all perspective, because from where I stand, there's more people ranting and raving about the "barbaric" practice than those who are doing it.
As far as choice goes.. I don't know how to explain being a parent to you any more than I already have. Parents can't leave every decision up to the child until their grown or they wouldn't make it to adulthood in the first place.
Do you have children? If you do, do you not decide what they eat, where they sleep, what school (or not) they go to, to vaccinate or not, when to take them to a doctor, when to cut their hair? There are more decisions we parents make for our children than not, why would I suddenly stop making that decision on something so significant as my child's health??
Exactly.
There is no health necessity these days.
We have soap and water.
As was mentioned in post #70, what about those who later in life become physically or mentally handicapped and can't wash themselves?
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