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Old 02-26-2012, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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It's right in the first sentence of the Act and it couldn't be more clearer proving that boy in the White House
Let me guess, this post has NOTHING to do with the President's race...you're just a concerned citizen making sure everything's all legal and good to go right?
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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No, the Constitution and SCOTUS decisions were ignored when it came to putting this guy in office. You sticking your head in the sand and ignoring those laws and the Constitution is what makes you un American or that you are flat out uneducated. Let me ask you this. Do you support the Constitution and the laws pertaining to citizenship of this country? If so why?
Only you can save this country from itself, Steve!!!!!









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Old 02-26-2012, 04:34 PM
 
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In the United States, the right of national citizenship is defined by federal law; which legislative authority, under the Constitution, resides in Congress. In the 1950's, the Congress enacted 8 U.S.C. §1401, et seq. defining nationals and citizens of the United States at birth. These provisions, some of which apply retroactively, govern a person’s status as a natural born citizen; which federal statutes supercede prior case law (including decisions of the Supreme Court) on the subject of citizenship to the extent inconsistent with the Congressional legislation. Under this law, both Barack Obama and John McCain were eligible to be President of the United States. (NB: Prior to the enactment of § 1403(a) of title 8 of the United State Code in 1952, Senator McCain would not have been deemed a "natural born citizen" eligible to be President.)
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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Here we go again with this lunacy.
President Obama was born in the USA and therefore he is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
If Obama had wanted to and declared himself a citizen of Kenya before his 23rd birthday he could have claimed Kenyan citizenship.... but he didn't.
Status as a natural-born citizen of the United States is one of the eligibility requirements established in the United States Constitution for election to the office of President or Vice President. This requirement was an attempt to allay concerns that foreign aristocrats might immigrate to the new nation and use their wealth and influence to impose a monarchy.
The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. The Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship "at birth" or "by birth," including any child born "in" the United States, even to alien parents (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residenc

Status as a natural-born citizen of the United States is one of the eligibility requirements established in the United States Constitution for election to the office of President or Vice President. This requirement was an attempt to allay concerns that foreign aristocrats might immigrate to the new nation and use their wealth and influence to impose a monarchy.
The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. The Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship "at birth" or "by birth," including any child born "in" the United States, even to alien parents (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residenc is therefore without a doubt or any ambiguity a American Citizen by birth.
Status as a natural-born citizen of the United States is one of the eligibility requirements established in the United States Constitution for election to the office of President or Vice President. This requirement was an attempt to allay concerns that foreign aristocrats might immigrate to the new nation and use their wealth and influence to impose a monarchy.
The Constitution does not define the phrase natural-born citizen, and various opinions have been offered over time regarding its precise meaning. The Congressional Research Service has stated that the weight of scholarly legal and historical opinion indicates that the term means one who is entitled under the Constitution or laws of the United States to U.S. citizenship "at birth" or "by birth," including any child born "in" the United States, even to alien parents (other than to foreign diplomats serving their country), the children of United States citizens born abroad, and those born abroad of one citizen parent who has met U.S. residency requirements.
Enough already with this sillyness......
No. Your post is a complete misconception. The Maskell CRS report was deceptive and omitted parts of cases in order to mislead the public. It was nothing more than a report that is error-ridden and the document is full of contradictions. For instance, Maskell writes:

“There is no provision in the Constitution and no controlling American case law to support a contention that the citizenship of one’s parents governs the eligibility of a native born U.S. citizen to be President.”

Two sentences later he states:

“…the eligibility of native born U.S. citizens has been settled law for more than a century…”

See what I mean. If there is no controlling case law, how can the issue have been settled law for more than a century? Maskell intentionally treats the terms citizenship at birth and natural born citizenship at birth as equivalent, when they are not. Your post fails.
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Stormfront server must be down again.
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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Let me guess, this post has NOTHING to do with the President's race...you're just a concerned citizen making sure everything's all legal and good to go right?
He is a boy. He acts like one. He shows no maturity in his actions and constantly apologizes to inferior nations. Now if he were a real mature man as president of the most powerful nation on earth, that wouldn't happen. Cotton pickin Palin has more maturity than him.
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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Stormfront server must be down again.

there is a stormfront coming?

I hope its a white out
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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I'm CONVINCED!!

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Old 02-26-2012, 04:41 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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It's right in the first sentence of the Act and it couldn't be more clearer proving that boy in the White House is not eligible for Article 2 Section 1. This and Minor V Happerset seal Obama's fate when it comes to proving ineligibility for him.

Here is the preamble to the 1866 Act:

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of the United States;”

Here is the preamble to the 14th Amendment:

“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.”

Finally, here is the first section of the Aliens and Nationality Act, Title 8 U.S.C. 1401:

“The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States
at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;”

As we all know, Obama's father was a subject of the United Kingdom, a foreign power and due the British Act of 1948, that status governed his children's birth status, namely Barack Obama Jr making him a dual citizen with born allegiance to the British Crown. For proof. This comes from Obama's campaign website Fight The Smears:


When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.’s children

It is as simple as that. The last sentence above proves Obama Jr was subject to a foreign power despite if he was born in Hawaii. Now use common sense and ask yourselves this:

Did our founders want a future president to have born loyalties and be subject to a foreign power, especially one that they just fought against for theirs and our independence? The answer is absolutely not and what would be the purpose after so many American colonist died fighting for it?

What does all this mean? It means that Obama is merely a U.S. Citizen but not a Constitutional natural born Citizen. He is not eligible.
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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He is a boy. He acts like one. He shows no maturity in his actions and constantly apologizes to inferior nations. Now if he were a real mature man as president of the most powerful nation on earth, that wouldn't happen. Cotton pickin Palin has more maturity than him.
Obama and Palin should do a movie together!

[it would be so taboo...]
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