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Old 03-05-2012, 05:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Tinawina View Post
No, she was there to support the BC requirement. She said she thought it was important and wasn't just "recreational", and then went into detail about a friend who needed it for a medical condition. Her point was it is more than just an "optional" thing, that women need these drugs.
You know, I just Ctrl+F'ed "recreation" (find, not that) and that word doesn't appear on that document.

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...%20hearing.pdf


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See the response above. You are cherry picking, at no point did she say anything about needed birth control pills so she could have a lot of sex. LOL
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Just last week, a married female student told me she had to stop using contraception because she couldn’t afford it any longer. Women employed in low wage jobs without contraceptive coverage face the same choice.
All those working poor at Georgetown...
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:05 PM
 
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That includes Dr exams you know...us woman can't get BCP's without it.

Now, if we want to make BCP's cheap and OTC maybe this won't even be an issue...? That's another story.
So now the HC plan doesn't cover Dr. Exams? Well crapola, throw them in too!

I'm starting to have a change of heart. I'm trying my best to save what little we have left but I'm coming to the conclusion that we should include everything from aspirin to skydiving.

Why try to save a failing system anyways, it's just prolonging and multiplying the agony on everyone when it should be going through a forced restructure.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:07 PM
 
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So what is the length for being at Georgetown to get a law degree? 6 years? 3 - 4 if you already have a Baccalaureate?

By her own words it takes $3,000 for BC over the span to get a law degree. that's $500 - $1000 year. $40 - $80 month.
Well it a prescription so it requires an annual visit plus you have to have a pap smear, so there's also the cost of the visit and those labs. You have to be screened for underlying conditions first, so it is not uncommon to also be sent for a ultrasound or something as well. I suspect that's what she means.

Law school is 3 years.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:07 PM
 
Location: California
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So now the HC plan doesn't cover Dr. Exams? Well crapola, throw them in too!

I'm starting to have a change of heart. I'm trying my best to save what little we have left but I'm coming to the conclusion that we should include everything from aspirin to skydiving.

Why try to save a failing system anyways, it's just prolonging and multiplying the agony on everyone when it should be going through a forced restructure.
You're just yammering. Take a nap.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:14 PM
 
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So now the HC plan doesn't cover Dr. Exams? Well crapola, throw them in too!

I'm starting to have a change of heart. I'm trying my best to save what little we have left but I'm coming to the conclusion that we should include everything from aspirin to skydiving.

Why try to save a failing system anyways, it's just prolonging and multiplying the agony on everyone when it should be going through a forced restructure.
No, she's talking about health coverage supplied to graduate students there, which is often straight up crap. You'd be surprised.

In any case, some of this outrage moot since most plans already cover birth control. That part is not new. What the law did was 1. eliminate the copay to fill the prescription and 2. say that while actual churches didn't have to do it, non worship entities that churches run like hospitals and schools had to comply. And they already found a compromise. So its pretty much over.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:20 PM
 
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It's going to be found unconstitutional. Obama's going to lose in November. And it's going to be repealed. That will be the end of the story.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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Well it a prescription so it requires an annual visit plus you have to have a pap smear, so there's also the cost of the visit and those labs. You have to be screened for underlying conditions first, so it is not uncommon to also be sent for a ultrasound or something as well. I suspect that's what she means.

Law school is 3 years.
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EXCLUSIONS AND LIMITATIONS

19. Prescription Drugs, services or supplies as follows, except as specifically provided in the policy:
b) Birth control and/or contraceptives, oral or other, whether medication or device; except as
specifically provided in the policy;
h) Fertility agents or sexual enhancement drugs, such as Parlodel, Pergonal, Clomid, Profasi, Metrodin, Serophene, or Viagra;
21. Reproductive/Infertility services including but not limited to: birth control; family planning; fertility tests; infertility (male or female), including any services or supplies rendered for the purpose or with the intent of inducing conception (examples of fertilization procedures are:
ovulation induction procedures, in vitro fertilization, embryo transfer or similar procedures that augment or enhance reproductive ability); premarital examination; impotence, organic or otherwise; tubal ligation; vasectomy; sexual reassignment surgery;
22. Screening exams or testing in absence of Injury or Sickness except for routine physical examinations, gynecological (GYN) visits, or well baby visits under 2 years old, or as specifically provided in the benefits for Child Health Screening Services;
25. Skydiving, parachuting, hang gliding, glider flying, parasailing, sail planing, or bungee jumping;
28. Surgical breast reduction, breast augmentation, breast implants or breast prosthetic devices;
30. War or any act of war, declared or undeclared; or while in the active duty of the armed forces
of any country (a pro-rata premium will be refunded upon request for such period not covered); and

• Maternity Testing - This policy does not cover routine, preventive or screening examinations or testing unless Medical Necessity is established based on medical records. The following maternity routine tests and screening exams will be considered if all other policy provisions have been met: Initial screening at first visit – Pregnancy test: Urine human chorionic gonatropin (HCG), Asymptomatic bacteriuria: Urine culture, Blood type and Rh antibody, Rubella, Pregnancy-associated plasma protein-A (PAPPA) (first trimester only), Free beta human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG) (first trimester only), Hepatitis B: HBsAg, Pap smear, Gonorrhea: Gc culture, Chlamydia: chlamydia culture, Syphilis: RPR, HIV: HIV-ab; and Coombs test; Each visit – Urine analysis; Once every trimester – Hematocrit and Hemoglobin; Once during first trimester – Ultrasound; Once during second trimester – Ultrasound (anatomy scan); Triple Alpha-fetoprotein (AFP), Estriol, hCG or Quad screen test Alphafetoprotein (AFP), Estriol, hCG, inhibin-a; Once during second trimester if age 35 or over - Amniocentesis or Chorionic villus sampling (CVS); Once during second or third trimester – 50g Glucola (blood glucose 1 hour postprandial); and Once during third trimester - Group B Strep Culture. Pre-natal vitamins are not covered. For additional information regarding Maternity Testing, please call the Company at 1-877-935-5437.
http://studentaffairs.georgetown.edu...lanbooklet.pdf
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:34 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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That's right but we should not have to pay for sex toys for mental health too. You don't think the libs will get that written in too do you? I mean there should be some limit to free stuff right?
That is just ridiculous. Insurance shouldn't pay for birth control b/c people would then want it to pay for sex toys? That doesn't even make sense.

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Who pays the premiums?
The POLICYHOLDER!

I do apologize if this has already been responsed to. I just read to post #120.
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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The POLICYHOLDER!

Why doesn't Fluke just shop around until she finds an insurance policy that gives her the coverage she wants?
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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This is the Catholic church and they have never complained about there being too many children. The Catholic hierarchy is against any artificial BC and they support the poor so they have no problem there.

Of course, each couple decides how many children they want but there are other methods besides artificial for not getting pregnant.
Yes, the "rhythm" method.

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that is very good, so they can afford it. excellent. if they are already buying it they should keep on buying it!! no need for public funding.
We're not talking about public funding of BCP.

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I think it already is. The problem is when it is used to prevent pregnancies and then when it doesn't work, they want them to pay for abortions. BC is not 100%. Even PP will tell you that. PP has said they can't provide BC if they do not provide abortions as well. They know the failure rate of BC.
Provide a link to the bold.

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They---women having an oops. BC fail

Them---taxpayers who have to pick up the bill for abortions.
No federal funds are used for abortion, per the Hyde amendment passed in 1976.

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If a woman is not having a lot of sex and doesn't need bc for medical purposes, it seems like a waste of money for everyone, whether the user is paying or the insurance company. Maybe it would be better to use something else which doesn't require a prescription and messing with hormones.
It is none of your business what anyone uses for contraception.

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It's going to be found unconstitutional. Obama's going to lose in November. And it's going to be repealed. That will be the end of the story.
Where'd you get your crystal ball?

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Why doesn't Fluke just shop around until she finds an insurance policy that gives her the coverage she wants?
As anyone who has ever looked into insurance already knows, individual policies are quite expensive.
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