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Have you ever rotated a conventional crop over to a naturally grown or organic field.
Soil and Water dept's have been seeing this for years.
They are the people that test soil life. Not some kooks that you like to shoot darts at.
The sad messenger killers always comment on the source and not the subject.
Offer your studies that say Monsanto products are not killing our soils and mutating our heritage seed stocks.
I'll be waiting patiently.
I grew up on a farm and my family still owns the farm. My Dad did use chemicals when I was a kid, but nothing like they use today. We used Atrazine on the corn and could only grow corn on that soil the next year because of "carry over". I'm sure that's nothing compared to Round up ready corn they grow now.
One of my main jobs when I was a kid was pulling weeds. All summer long we battled weeds. Now look at the fields. Clean as a whistle. Not a weed anywhere because absolutely nothing will grow but the modified seeds designed specifically for the chemicals you are dumping on the ground.
Doesn't that just sound wrong? How can they really know what they are doing to the balance of life? Soil is such a complicated compound and you can kill it and then you should see the work involved in bringing it back.
Everything in farming now is oil. Oil based chemicals, oil runs the tractors, oil runs the trucks that delivers the crops halfway around the world.
My Dad retired 15 years ago and rents his land to Hmong farmers who use all natural methods, no chemicals at all. You should see the crops they grow. They get big dollars for those crops too because there are people out there who care about their health.
The "silver lining", is an earth free of the burden of humanity, and it's ways. . . .with millions of years to heal itself, and to try again. . . . .
So they are going to destroy it, to rejuvinate it? Nuclear weapons, bunker busters, bio-pathogens, virus's, how many years do they expect to live underground? Cabin fever will set in within months.
We need bugs, and one mans weed is another's flower or medicine. Monsanto creates new strains of bugs with more resiliancy. Monsanto is destroying the natural bio-diversity of the soil. Plus their seeds blow and contaminate the organic fields.
I grew up on a farm and my family still owns the farm. My Dad did use chemicals when I was a kid, but nothing like they use today. We used Atrazine on the corn and could only grow corn on that soil the next year because of "carry over". I'm sure that's nothing compared to Round up ready corn they grow now.
One of my main jobs when I was a kid was pulling weeds. All summer long we battled weeds. Now look at the fields. Clean as a whistle. Not a weed anywhere because absolutely nothing will grow but the modified seeds designed specifically for the chemicals you are dumping on the ground.
Doesn't that just sound wrong? How can they really know what they are doing to the balance of life? Soil is such a complicated compound and you can kill it and then you should see the work involved in bringing it back.
Everything in farming now is oil. Oil based chemicals, oil runs the tractors, oil runs the trucks that delivers the crops halfway around the world.
My Dad retired 15 years ago and rents his land to Hmong farmers who use all natural methods, no chemicals at all. You should see the crops they grow. They get big dollars for those crops too because there are people out there who care about their health.
Its an awesome site when you see a natural farm. The way it was intended.
Too bad the powers want their products polluting the world and creating a winfall for the Medical industry.
as of Sept 2011
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You can imagine the push back it has been getting. Not too many people have the balls to question Monsanto.
Hey, how'd you do that spoiler thing.. that's pretty cool.
when it's published, you will have something. maybe. until then, these are just empty claims. i know a number of phd-level mycologists, and none of them buy his claim of 'microfungi' that are as small as a virus.
it took me awhile to find that spoiler deal myself -
Spoiler
look for the 'show/hide' icon' and put what you want hidden into it
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Originally Posted by modeerf
See link on post #39
there is nothing in post 39 relating to harmful effects of roundup on beneficial plant fungi, only unsubstantiated claims that it increases the numbers of harmful ones. oh, and that the use of roundup has somehow magically spawned these cryptic 'microfungi.' but neither of those things were mentioned by the poster i was responding to.
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Originally Posted by modeerf
How'd it work out for the thousands of military guinea pigs?
Otherwise known as American Patriots.
One of our combine operators has more health problems from Agent Orange than i can list. He is actually completely disabled and works the farm to stay sane.
do you honestly think that monsanto, dow, etc. 'lethally intended' harm to our military?
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Originally Posted by cap1717
Yes, and Thank You. . . . .
All of these folks that blow off the harm that Monsanto has been doing for years are unaware, I suspect, of the presence of / importance of mycorrhiza. . . . .Those of us in the Horticultural community have been paying attention to this kind of thing for years!
so what are the effects of roundup on these helpful and important mycorhizal associations, since none have been mentioned yet?
once again i request that you please address how decreasing the numbers of 3 species of bacteria is 'destroying' the earth and soil.
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Originally Posted by claudhopper
We need bugs, and one mans weed is another's flower or medicine. Monsanto creates new strains of bugs with more resiliancy. Monsanto is destroying the natural bio-diversity of the soil. Plus their seeds blow and contaminate the organic fields.
we don't need bugs eating our crops, nor infesting our fields. if you believe that we do, then i don't see the point of discussing this any further with you.
when it's published, you will have something. maybe. until then, these are just empty claims. i know a number of phd-level mycologists, and none of them buy his claim of 'microfungi' that are as small as a virus.
There have been multiple studies done in Europe. The peer review has been done.
The Specific US study by Dr. Huber is the one that is ongoing.
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