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Old 03-16-2012, 08:10 AM
 
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You're being pretty selective about your "price of gas" claim. Did you notice that the price of gas took a 9-month free fall, after June 2008?
I did -- but I'm just being just as selective as you are.

You picked the low price in 2008, I picked the high price.

Which is more important? Neither, the whole point is that when you put blinders on and ignore the bigger picture, you can spin it however you want. You say you're fairly moderate politically, but you use prepackaged talking points from the far right as "facts". I don't know if that's deliberate or not.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You're being pretty selective about your "price of gas" claim. Did you notice that the price of gas took a 9-month free fall, after June 2008?
And mostly because the economy was going down hill. But, it did go up to a level you now want to avoid talking about. This is why you can't complain about people pointing at you.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:18 AM
 
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And mostly because the economy was going down hill. But, it did go up to a level you now want to avoid talking about. This is why you can't complain about people pointing at you.
The current price of gas is PART of the OP point. But let's, for the sake of this discussion, talk about the current price of gas...

Has gas, or has it not, risen 50 cents per gallon in less than a month? The answer is YES - and this despite the fact that domestic consumption is down, supply is up, and we're not yet in the peak demand season.

Why is that?

And why is it that, when the price of gas skyrocketed in 2008, EVERYBODY was screaming about it being Bush's fault, yet today NOBODY (in the mainstream media anyway) is talking about the price of gas being Obama's fault.

*To clarify... No, I do not listen to Limbaugh, or other right-wing extremists. Nor am I a follower of Daily Kos, or other such liberal tripe. We all know that those folks are going to say, and it's not worth repeating.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:24 AM
 
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And why is it that, when the price of gas skyrocketed in 2008, EVERYBODY was screaming about it being Bush's fault, yet today NOBODY (in the mainstream media anyway) is talking about the price of gas being Obama's fault.


ok, well here's an example of Fox News saying Gas prices aren't Bush's fault:


FLASHBACK: Fox News On Gas Prices In 2008 - YouTube



and here's an example of Fox News saying Gas prices are Obama's fault:


Issa on Fox News: Rising Gas Prices Hurt Every American. How is the Administration Reacting? - YouTube

happy now?
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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What a fantasy World you and your wife live in.

Why don't you give us a link to a source that makes the argument gas prices, hurricanes were George Bush's fault?

Maybe you're confused? Do you recall Bush having to fire the head of FEMA after the hurricane?

Furthermore, I can gladly direct you to scores of liberal sites that blame obama for prolonging wars, erosion of civil rights, failed mortgage relief program, surrounding himself with Wall St insiders and DC lobbyists.

You just don't know what you are talking about
My God. Here you go again. Unless you were under a rock during the GWB administration, then you know EXACTLY what the OP is taking about. That you would ask for "links" is pure, unadulterated disingenuousness on your part.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The current price of gas is PART of the OP point. But let's, for the sake of this discussion, talk about the current price of gas...

Has gas, or has it not, risen 50 cents per gallon in less than a month? The answer is YES - and this despite the fact that domestic consumption is down, supply is up, and we're not yet in the peak demand season.

Why is that?
Tell me. What do you think?

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And why is it that, when the price of gas skyrocketed in 2008, EVERYBODY was screaming about it being Bush's fault, yet today NOBODY (in the mainstream media anyway) is talking about the price of gas being Obama's fault.
So you should be defending Obama against people who accuse him of what you hated of people who accused Bush. You're bickering about people blaming Bush, instead. But then, did you even bother to read my post before responding to it?

Like I said there... the devil is in the details, with responsibilities dictated by vested powers. Do you see any difference in Bush's approach to the crisis in 2008, compared to Obama's approach? Trust me, I won't classify it as a blame game, if we can logically discuss their approach to handling the crisis (or any crisis, for that matter).
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:57 AM
 
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Do you see any difference in Bush's approach to the crisis in 2008, compared to Obama's approach? Trust me, I won't classify it as a blame game, if we can logically discuss their approach to handling the crisis (or any crisis, for that matter).
I saw Bush doing very little to cause it, or remedy the problem. Likewise I see Obama doing very little to remedy the situation.

Now... I suppose you could argue that Obama nixing the Keystone XL Pipeline contributed to the price of gas - but I think that's a weak argument.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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the tea party is obama's fault i guess lol...
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:02 AM
 
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I saw Bush doing very little to cause it, or remedy the problem. Likewise I see Obama doing very little to remedy the situation.
Typical. So, with Bush you want to address "cause" (that he didn't cause it). With Obama, you want to address "remedy". You didn't have to prove again, that your argument had no legs.

How about you try again, addressing both on causes, or both on remedies and both on EXACTLY the same grounds. I did couple of posts earlier. Re-read it, try to comprehend and then come back to discuss.

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Now... I suppose you could argue that Obama nixing the Keystone XL Pipeline contributed to the price of gas - but I think that's a weak argument.
Would you? Yes, you would as you just did. So, why is it not a stupid but a weak argument?
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:22 AM
 
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Now, NOTHING is Obama's fault. Absolutely nothing. If there's any question, the explanation is that he inherited the problem.

Are you kidding ? from the forums, media and rightwing talk and tv shows it sure seems to me like Obama is getting blamed for everything..
Tune in to Rush,Beck or Fox news and you may rethink your assertions..
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