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I wonder how people would view the outcome in this scenario:
Martin walks up to Zimmerman and punches him in the nose.
Zimmerman falls to the ground.
Martin pounces on him and slams his head against the concrete.
Zimmerman is able to get enough space to draw his weapon. He fires a single shot.
The bullet strikes a six year old girl in the chest. She dies almost instantly.
Excluding the obvious fact that Martin would be alive to share his side of the story, would you feel that Zimmerman's use of his firearm was warranted under the circumstances? Or would you think he had committed a reckless act?
Would a reasonable person have believed that, given the circumstances, there was a substantial risk of injuring someone? I don't know what time of night the shooting happened but it'd be hard to get him on manslaughter for that if it was, say, 2AM when nobody is out.
Zimmerman was using self defense against a violent thug under the influence of drugs.
I heard that Martin's autopsy showed no drugs involved, but I cannot confirm it. Might be something to look at first, before you make another statement like that.
That photo on the left is not of him as a 12 year old. People just don't want to see him as the person below, they are dying to see him as the person flipping off the camera
I wonder how people would view the outcome in this scenario:
Martin walks up to Zimmerman and punches him in the nose.
Zimmerman falls to the ground.
Martin pounces on him and slams his head against the concrete.
Zimmerman is able to get enough space to draw his weapon. He fires a single shot.
The bullet strikes a six year old girl in the chest. She dies almost instantly.
Excluding the obvious fact that Martin would be alive to share his side of the story, would you feel that Zimmerman's use of his firearm was warranted under the circumstances? Or would you think he had committed a reckless act?
It's a slippery slope that gun laws present... The SYG law in particular.
When is it OK to use deadly force??? When the guy is on top of you bashing your head into the ground?? Yea IF you can draw it
If somebody pulls out? If somebody is shooting you???? Put the public in danger of a shootout...
Somebody breaks into your house??? If you don't have a witness how do you prove it was self defense....
The law is way too easy to exploit....
The problem is under the circumstances the law does apply if indeed Martin was assaulting him...The problem is the sponsors will never come out and stand behind it because they are scoundrels...
In general, let's say Martin got up and was retreating and Zimmerman pulled out.. whether he hit a 6 year old girl or Martin....that is not justified because he was no longer in danger.
Unless of course, he was going to attack him again.... but I digress.
Would a reasonable person have believed that, given the circumstances, there was a substantial risk of injuring someone? I don't know what time of night the shooting happened but it'd be hard to get him on manslaughter for that if it was, say, 2AM when nobody is out.
Considering that one witness said Zimmerman's head was pounded to the pavement a few times, while Martin was on top of him, beating him, yup, some personal injuries to Zimmerman may have taken place before he fired his gun.
Zimmerman was using self defense against a violent thug under the influence of drugs.
If that's what you want to believe (you're obviously a troll so it doesn't matter what you believe). But the bottom line is that the use of lethal force is either justified under the circumstances or it's not. I think Martin's "character" needs to be completely removed from the equation so that the sole focus becomes the reasonableness of Zimmerman's actions.
Here's another hypo:
I'm a store owner. Some thugs break in to rob my place and I get beat up in the process.
On their way out, one of the thugs turns and raises a gun to shoot me. I know that death is imminent.
Little do these thugs know, I've planted a batch of C4 explosives under the door threshold. The C4 can be detonated by sending a signal from my cell phone.
I detonate the C4, killling the thugs, and two passerbys on the sidewalk in the process.
It's a slippery slope that gun laws present... The SYG law in particular.
When is it OK to use deadly force??? When the guy is on top of you bashing your head into the ground?? Yea IF you can draw it
If somebody pulls out? If somebody is shooting you???? Put the public in danger of a shootout...
Somebody breaks into your house??? If you don't have a witness how do you prove it was self defense....
The law is way too easy to exploit....
The problem is under the circumstances the law does apply if indeed Martin was assaulting him...The problem is the sponsors will never come out and stand behind it because they are scoundrels...
In general, let's say Martin got up and was retreating and Zimmerman pulled out.. whether he hit a 6 year old girl or Martin....that is not justified because he was no longer in danger.
Unless of course, he was going to attack him again.... but I digress.
Do we even know where Martin was shot, at what range, what angle, and was he shot from behind or facing Zimmerman? When you get down to it, we don't know jack.
If that's what you want to believe (you're obviously a troll so it doesn't matter what you believe). But the bottom line is that the use of lethal force is either justified under the circumstances or it's not. I think Martin's "character" needs to be completely removed from the equation so that the sole focus becomes the reasonableness of Zimmerman's actions.
Here's another hypo:
I'm a store owner. Some thugs break in to rob my place and I get beat up in the process.
On their way out, one of the thugs turns and raises a gun to shoot me. I know that death is imminent.
Little do these thugs know, I've planted a batch of C4 explosives under the door threshold. The C4 can be detonated by sending a signal from my cell phone.
I detonate the C4, kllling the thugs, and two passerbys on the sidewalk in the process.
Still missing the point. The media has been selling the image of an all American, baby face, 12 year old school boy who is part of the church choir. Meanwhile they have the other that looks like a mug shot in an orange suit.
I am not on either side of this because I know I don't have all the facts. I do know when I am being played.
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