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View Poll Results: What would you do with "the poor"?
Help them, provide assistance and do all we can to end poverty 59 50.43%
Nothing (leave them to sink or swim) 24 20.51%
Punish them for their so-called bad decision making 3 2.56%
Euthanise them or encourage euthanasia to people who have lost hope 7 5.98%
Other (explain) 24 20.51%
Voters: 117. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-01-2012, 08:30 PM
 
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We have infrastructure problems put them to work just like the CCC did Shawnee Forest wouldn't have
its horse trails,roads,lakes if not for the CCC program.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Orlando
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My acts for the poor is to not become one of them and do what I can to improve my abilities to hire others and raise them up as well. I can train others as to how to make money and expand their wealth.

Give the poor hand outs rarely does any good for anyone... remember the addage about teaching a man to fish vs buying them a fish?

No one with self respect wants a handout, but rather a helping hand. We as a society need to learn the difference.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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for those poor that are working hard to get ahead, help them in anyway legitimately possible. encourage them to move up from the position they are working now to a better paying job, etc. for those that game the system, make them prove they need what they claim they need or cut them off. sometimes you have to give some people a boot in the backside to make them get in the game and do for themselves.

for those that truly need the help due to disabilities, give them the help they need.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:57 PM
 
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The problem I see is that in comig years we will have less to help the poor with. I also think pverty should be better definited,Certainly Clinton foundation stats from governamnt that show that 20%of the country has 80% of the poverty and they get only 20% of all federal money goig to poverty programs says our aim is as he says political based to the extreme.That is why the Clinton'bush foundation has concluded we need to switch away from this to more privately control giving such as eve the Gate foundation has concluded also.With coming cuts that is the directio I see us goig to and elimianting fraud and getting help to those who need it.
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:21 AM
 
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Being poor in the USA with all the food stamps, Medicaid, WIC, free meals at school, Section 8 housing and much much more sure beats working for a living back home. Especially when it only requires having babies you cannot afford to be given more handouts than one could not even dream of back home.

Who can get Section 8? That's a crapshoot with long odds.
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Old 04-02-2012, 03:40 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Why can't we just deport all people that are on welfare? This country would be a lot wealthier.
Deport Americans?? Where do you suggest that these Americans get deported to?
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:00 AM
 
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Deport Americans?? Where do you suggest that these Americans get deported to?
Just deport them to Mexico. Hey, they flood this country with their scum, so lets just flood them with our scum.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:15 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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I wouldn't call a mother with three low paying jobs or a family living on below poverty income or a family who's bread winner is now unemployed yet they try to feed and clothe their loved ones people who do not want to help themselves..... why is it i hear more whining and whinging from the people who have got good jobs or have done well than i ever hear from the poor who have a much harder time than most in this Country.
I pay tax and yet i have no problem in having a proportion of my earnings go towards the welfare of those less fortunate than myself ... but hey i'm a Brit who is now a American Citizen and having fairness and concern for others seems to be a British thing but NOT a American thing anymore........... bit disgusting that I am more Patriotic and caring to my poorer fellow Americans than you are..............
LOL Are you serious? From what I hear (plenty of Brit expats where I'm living) and read Brits (not immigrants) are pretty tired of the welfare state it's becoming, similar to the US. Especially the ease the commit welfare fraud.

Maybe you have been away too long. March 6, 2012 article in the Daily Mail:

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Read more:Why Britain's fallen out of love with the welfare state | Mail Online

The welfare programs for the poor created by Sir Willaim Beveridge and President Teddy Roosevelt had the same principles and pretty much mirrored each other. The initial intent of each is no longer apparent, as the programs were not meant to be a way of life, but temporary for people to get back on their feet. The initial intent for borth countries was the same, the current result in both countries is also the same. IMO, Britain has been and still is far more generous that the US had been or is today.

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I believe it is America's duty to help those in genuine need. Go back to the original intent of the programs and/or write the massive welfare reforms that are needed. Those who are working and find it hard to make ends meet are deserving, those able to work should be made to work, even if it's part-time to contribute to their wellbeing, or learn a skill or get a degree. Those who are physically or mentally unable to provide for themselves are in genuine need.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:17 AM
 
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Just deport them to Mexico. Hey, they flood this country with their scum, so lets just flood them with our scum.
You are a fountain of knowledge, aren't you?
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:30 AM
 
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I would " help poor people learn how to get a job, learn how to get a better job, and learn someday to own the job".
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