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Old 04-02-2012, 09:31 AM
 
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Nice deflection from the topic.

And forget about Ron Paul. He is crazy enough to believe he can get on the republican ticket, but the only enjoyment out of it is seeing his supporter run a muck with "hope".

And if he were to magically make it to Presidency, the only difference would be an extra round of non-work. Take NDAA, for example. It is a bill that has been passed for 50 years (and it funds defense). It took a few crooks to insert into the bill the provisions that everybody but the government is concerned about. Obama could have vetoed (as, I'm sure Ron Paul would have), but to what effect? The provision had more than enough support for veto-override (which is what Ron Paul would have been dealt with).

So, stop whining and just deal with the fact that when you hear your kind of politicians talk about "freedoms" and small government, they're just pandering to you, and you're buying into it. But hey, they do because you do!
Lifelong isn't someone who sucks up to the GOP like most of the right-wing posters on here. She well knows the GOP sucks, and won't do ****, even with a majority. They'll continue the same Bush/Obama/Clinton/Bush/Reagan/Nixon agenda. It won't change. Sadly, Ron Paul being president won't change much either, because they'll just veto-override everything he vetoes.
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You totally missed...."Face it, the US Constitution is under assault by Progressives on both sides of the aisle."


The cancer is Progressivism.
Well, that "cancer" is what made the US Constitution unique.

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Lifelong isn't someone who sucks up to the GOP like most of the right-wing posters on here. She well knows the GOP sucks, and won't do ****, even with a majority. They'll continue the same Bush/Obama/Clinton/Bush/Reagan/Nixon agenda. It won't change. Sadly, Ron Paul being president won't change much either, because they'll just veto-override everything he vetoes.
My observation differs about lifelong. As for the rest, EVERY person striving to be the President has an agenda. Ron Paul does too. Where he separates from the rest is that... he shall remain a useful idiot to the GOP establishment. He is no Barry Goldwater, with whom I've plenty of disgreements but can respect for challenging his own party and its ridiculous base... OPENLY.
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Old 04-02-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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You totally missed...."Face it, the US Constitution is under assault by Progressives on both sides of the aisle."


The cancer is Progressivism.
The cancer is hard right wing fascism, even Paul thinks so.

Ron Paul on NBC: U.S. Moving Toward "Soft Fascism" - YouTube


Progressives like FDR and Clinton created some the most booming economies this nation has ever seen, and there is a reason for that. Progressive policies have been for the greater good for this nation, right wing ones create it's demise.



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Old 04-02-2012, 09:54 AM
 
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*yawn* Well intentioned but badly worded and designed legislation are just a fact of life.

The 1st amendment group will sue, they will win, the law will be struck down and the state will have to pay their court costs.

Remember the Titanic? In response to that they passed this....Seamen's Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Key provision requiring more lifeboats be added to ships)

Which wound up killing over 800 people they were trying to protect because it made an already top-heavy ship unstable.
SS Eastland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:39 PM
 
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There is a fine line between free speech and free assault.
You can't "assault" someone with speech.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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You can't "assault" someone with speech.
According to your English dictionary, you can.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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According to your English dictionary, you can.

Only in the sense to describe an onslaught of verbal direction. It's use in such cases is merely descriptive of its style and directive nature, not that of an actual ability to achieve any true result of such.

That is, an assault is the preceding action to achieve battery. It is classified separately as one can be assaulted (have an action put in motion to attack them) and yet not have an actual result of its intention.

A verbal assault can never obtain physical connection. It is harmless as it can never achieve any sense of danger to which is normally associated with battery. His use was misleading and implied that there is some offense being committed to another by their speech alone.

As I said, you can not "assault" someone verbally to any relevant context of an offense.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:26 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Hey look at what the freedom-loving GOP passed in Arizona, disguised as an anti-bullying bill

http://mediacoalition.org/mediaimages/AZ%20HB%202549%20Letter%20to%20Governor%20Brewer%2 0requesting%20veto%203%2029%202012.pdf (broken link)

Basically, Arizona would be like Canada and much of Europe where you can be criminally prosecuted if you say something that might offend someone. Go Brewer and AZ GOP! Show those moron rank-and-file Republicans that the 1st Amendment was only meant to protect polite speech!
Actually, the First Amendment was intended to protect political speech.

But bullying is another matter entirely. I wouldn't consider bullying a "free speech" issue, in part because it can lead to violence against the victim.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:29 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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There is a fine line between free speech and free assault.
Exactly.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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More attacks on the constitution and huge government from the GOP, shocking
What's more shocking is that you can see the constitution being chiseled on by the GOP and completely blind to the DNC using explosives and jack hammers. Selective ignorance huh? Oh that's right... hate speech is one of the liberal tools and now, in AZ, you could go to jail for it.
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