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Old 06-23-2012, 08:05 AM
 
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It is a public lynching. Fortunately, it's being done by only a handful of people who keep spewing the same nonsense and clogging the internet with their self-proclaimed expertise.
It is only considered a public lynching by those who continue to try to politicize it and are spewing the same nonsense that this person is not going to get a fair trial, or who are afraid this case may have an impact on SYG laws; fortunately that's a fairly small group of people. Btw, in your opinion it only takes a "handful of people" to make a criminal case a "public lynching" of a defendant? My, my. Who knew?

 
Old 06-23-2012, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Houston
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While hooked up to a voice-stress analyzer, George Zimmerman answered two crucial questions to help verify his version of his fatal February encounter with Trayvon Martin.

"Did you confront the guy you shot?" the Sanford Police Investigator William Ervin asked.
"No," Zimmerman replied.

After a few control questions, Ervin asks: "Were you in fear for your life when you shot the guy?

Zimmerman doesn't hesitate, "Yes."


Facing a blank wall in a Sanford Police department interview room, Zimmerman answered nine test questions showing no signs of uneasiness about 24 hours after he shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, according to an hour-long video released Thursday through Zimmerman's legal defense website.

In audio interviews with Sanford Police Investigator Chris Serino also released today, Serino says Zimmerman passed the test.
The public lynching of Z-man needs to end.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 08:27 AM
 
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This voice stress test:

George Zimmerman lie detector video - Orlando Sentinel

A public lynching is what this is.
So he passed a lie detector test. Unfortunately, that has limited uses. However, it certainly could throw a different light on this case in the court of public opinion to some degree.

THIS is a public lynching:
Lynching in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think the term you're looking for is "high-tech lynching"...
High Tech Lynching: From Clarence Thomas to the Duke Lacrosse Team by Gary North
 
Old 06-23-2012, 08:29 AM
 
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The public lynching of Z-man needs to end.
AGAIN, a "public lynching" would be taking Zimmerman out and hanging him by the neck until he is dead in PUBLIC.

Google "high tech lynching"..........it means something different.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Houston
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A public lynching is what we have here, folks, of a man who passed a voice stress test where he answered two critical questions. He answered no to the question of if he confronted Martin. He answered yes to the question of if he was in fear for his life. The initial prosecutor wisely chose not to prosecute. Then the public lynching began. Saint Trayvon's death must be avenged, facts be damned.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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A public lynching is what we have here, folks, of a man who passed a voice stress test where he answered two critical questions. He answered no to the question of if he confronted Martin. He answered yes to the question of if he was in fear for his life. The initial prosecutor wisely chose not to prosecute. Then the public lynching began. Saint Trayvon's death must be avenged, facts be damned.
You're using the WRONG term. Nobody has taken Zimmerman out and lynched him in the PUBLIC SQUARE. You're thinking of a "high-tech lynching".......try to at least read definitions.

Let me ask you this: WHY is it that lie detector test results are not allowed to be used in court??

If you're so sure that a lie detector determines the absolute truth, then I'm sure you'd have no trouble releasing people across this country convicted of murder and the death penalty if they could pass a lie detector test?

You're the only one calling Martin "Saint Trayvon" and claiming that his death must be avenged. I'm saying there needs to be a trial and this issue resolved in a court of law.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 08:58 AM
 
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a public lynching, please read history to understand what a lynching is. zimmerman made his bed now he has to sleep in it.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 09:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by whogo View Post
A public lynching is what we have here, folks, of a man who passed a voice stress test where he answered two critical questions. He answered no to the question of if he confronted Martin. He answered yes to the question of if he was in fear for his life. The initial prosecutor wisely chose not to prosecute. Then the public lynching began. Saint Trayvon's death must be avenged, facts be damned.
Did you know the state did Not want the voice stress test released to the public ? Why ? Because they claim those tests don't have enough scientific acceptance to warrant admissibility in court. Of course, their reasons have nothing to do with gz 'passing' the test.

The more that's seen of gz, the more I marvel at how much he trusted the cops. How couldn't he know that taking a VST or a lie detector test [they aren't the same thing] could make things worse not better for him.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 09:07 AM
 
Location: Houston
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The more that's seen of gz, the more I marvel at how much he trusted the cops. How couldn't he know that taking a VST or a lie detector test [they aren't the same thing] could make things worse not better for him.
I think a lot of people falsely believe that if they are innocent they have nothing to fear.
 
Old 06-23-2012, 09:08 AM
 
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A voice stress is not a polygraph. It certainly does not prove that Zimmerman was telling the truth.

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Researchers with the Oklahoma Department of Mental Health and Substance Abuse Services (including this author) used these VSA programs while questioning more than 300 arrestees about their recent drug use. The results of the VSA output—which ostensibly indicated whether the arrestees were lying or telling the truth—were then compared to their urine drug test results. The findings of our study revealed:
  • Deceptive respondents. Fifteen percent who said they had not used drugs—but who, according to their urine tests, had—were correctly identified by the VSA programs as being deceptive.
  • Nondeceptive respondents. Eight and a half percent who were telling the truth—that is, their urine tests were consistent with their statements that they had or had not used drugs—were incorrectly classified by the VSA programs as being deceptive.
Using these percentages to determine the overall accuracy rates of the two VSA programs, we found that their ability to accurately detect deception about recent drug use was about 50 percent.
Based solely on these statistics, it seems reasonable to conclude that these VSA programs were not able to detect deception about drug use, at least to a degree that law enforcement professionals would require—particularly when weighed against the financial investment. We did find, however, that arrestees who were questioned using the VSA instruments were less likely to lie about illicit drug use compared to arrestees whose responses were recorded by the interviewer with pen and paper.
So perhaps the answer to the question "Does VSA work?" is . . . it depends on the definition of "work."
Voice Stress Analysis: Only 15 Percent of Lies About Drug Use Detected in Field Test | National Institute of Justice
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