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Old 05-20-2012, 02:36 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Maybe he was friends with the tooth fairy? His answer when questioned about the jewelry was that a friend gave it to him. He declined to name
the friend. Multiple suspensions paint complicated portrait of Trayvon Martin - Trayvon Martin - MiamiHerald.com
Yes, the ole it belongs to a "friend" excuse.

 
Old 05-20-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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You are not a child at 17.
A person is not an adult in our society at age 17. Factually, he was a teenager. He couldn't join the military without parental consent at 17. He was living at home and going to high school. He couldn't legally drink alcohol at age 17. There are many things 17 year olds in our society are not allowed to do because, indeed, in our society, he is considered to have been a "child" at 17.....not an adult.
 
Old 05-20-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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And yet, if you're a black man, and a white man walks in front of your vehicle and you nearly run him over, you can shoot him from the safety of your vehicle and never be arrested. Or even have your name released.
What were the other facts of that case? Surely there were more facts than what you outline. Also, in what state did this occur? Different states, different laws.
 
Old 05-20-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Houston
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A person is not an adult in our society at age 17. Factually, he was a teenager. He couldn't join the military without parental consent at 17. He was living at home and going to high school. He couldn't legally drink alcohol at age 17. There are many things 17 year olds in our society are not allowed to do because, indeed, in our society, he is considered to have been a "child" at 17.....not an adult.
In many states he is old enough to consent to sexual relationships and old enough to be tried as an adult in criminal courts. Seventeen is also in the peak age range for those who engage in violent criminal activity. So dump the child crapola.

No restaurant I have even been to where children eat free have I seen a 17 year old eating for free.
 
Old 05-20-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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No, Corey's job is to pursue justice, not convict innocent individuals. Yes, there will be a not guilty verdict based on reasonable doubt. The evidence in this case shows that Zimmerman is not just "not guilty" but innocent. Zimmermen was attacked, he defended himself. Now Zimmermen is being attacked again by the state of Florida. Gotta keep them voters happy.
Her job is not to convict innocent individuals actually goes without saying.

Again, you do not know what the "evidence in this case shows" at this point because you don't know what ALL of the evidence is. It's simply your "belief" that Zimmerman will be found not guilty because that is the outcome you desire, not because you have had a chance to review all the evidence and have come to a decision based on facts. Additionally, it is one thing to read witness statements, or to listen to tape recorded statements, but quite another to watch and listen to those people testify in court and, based on their testimony, as well as other testimony and physical evidence, determine the credibility of each witness.
 
Old 05-20-2012, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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This whole case is 100% the media's fault. There is no reason that we should always have to back down to crime and let these thugs walk all over us. Trayvon Martin was nothing more than a thug, and WAS suspicious, he was not a nice boy just strolling through the neighborhood and killed in cold blood for being black. The media wanted to spin this and use their race manipulation on us. The truth will come out, and I think George Zimmerman is going to walk free, which he should.

We should not have to back down to the thugs and to crime, we should be able to protect ourselves and our neighborhoods. Why is someone who tries to help the community looked down upon? I forgot, this country has become so weak and so PC that we can't do anything besides bend over and hope they don't kill us, because if we defend ourselves we'll be hated.
 
Old 05-20-2012, 03:04 PM
 
Location: on the edge of Sanity
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No restaurant I have even been to where children eat free have I seen a 17 year old eating for free.
You mean you actually asked people dining out for a photo ID? Seriously, what a silly comment, since the signs usually say "children 12 and younger." (many say 10 and under) So, using your example, a boy 13 is an adult.
 
Old 05-20-2012, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Houston
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You mean you actually asked people dining out for a photo ID? Seriously, what a silly comment, since the signs usually say "children 12 and younger." (many say 10 and under) So, using your example, a boy 13 is an adult.

Try to keep up. If was Katiana labeling Martin a child...not me.

When you look at homicide rates you find the highest rates of homicide offenders is among those in the 17 to 24 age bracket. You are more likely to be killed by a 17 year old "child" than a 40 year old adult. You are at greater risk of being killed by a 17 year old "child" if you are also a "child" or black.

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Old 05-20-2012, 03:08 PM
 
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Why would you assume that the state of Florida thinks that Zimmerman is lying based on them filing charges against him?
This question is just too absurd.

You're suggesting that the State of Florida would file charges and yet believe Zimmerman's self-defense claims and that he was lawfully standing his ground?

I am not assuming, I KNOW that the State of Florida contends that Zimmerman is lying about self-defense and SYG BECAUSE they did file charges of 2nd degree murder. Geeezzz. There are two sides to a criminal case. Prosecution. Defense. In what world do you live where you think that a prosecutor files charges even though they believe the defendant is telling the truth when he claims self-defense, SYG? That would be a HUGE waste of taxpayers' money to take cases like that to trial IF the State believed the defendant was telling the truth! Prosecutors actually do determine whether or not to file charges based on the evidence and the likelihood of a conviction!

You don't really think the State stays neutral in cases where they have filed criminal charges, do you?
 
Old 05-20-2012, 03:10 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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This question is just too absurd.

You're suggesting that the State of Florida would file charges and yet believe Zimmerman's self-defense claims and that he was lawfully standing his ground?

I am not assuming, I KNOW that the State of Florida contends that Zimmerman is lying about self-defense and SYG BECAUSE they did file charges of 2nd degree murder. Geeezzz. There are two sides to a criminal case. Prosecution. Defense. In what world do you live where you think that a prosecutor files charges even though they believe the defendant is telling the truth when he claims self-defense, SYG? That would be a HUGE waste of taxpayers' money to take cases like that to trial IF the State believed the defendant was telling the truth! Prosecutors actually do determine whether or not to file charges based on the evidence and the likelihood of a conviction!

You don't really think the State stays neutral in cases where they have filed criminal charges, do you?
Did it ever occur to you that he doesn't have to be lying to be convicted of 2nd degree murder?
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