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Old 04-25-2012, 11:49 AM
 
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OMG! Have you read NOTHING in this thread? Or, don't you really care about the truth?
Yeah I've read all the nonsense being spewed by the swooners.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:52 AM
 
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Yup -

Where I used to live, and some years ago, a woman was trying to keep her dairy operating after her husband had walked out on her and their kids.

Her oldest son - who was ten or eleven at the time - was operating the tractor or a baler or something (I can't remember - it's been like 25 years ago) and he got his arm caught in the machinery and ripped off.

He was the same age as my oldest son at that time (he'd be around 35 or so now) and is spending the rest of his life with one arm.
SO WHAT????????????? Listen to you!!! Accidents happen all the effing time. Wanna know the most dangerous sport for teenagers? CHEERLEADING! Farming is dangerous work always has been. It's none of your business or anyone else's what responsibilities a family wants to give their kids. I was driving tractors and using lawn mowers and power tools before I could drive. Hell I was driving cars before I could drive on my family's property. Get over yourself! I learned how to weld when I was 10. Learned how to shoot a gun before that. You are CLUELESS!!!!!!!!

Kids are getting high in LA off fricking hand sanitizer! Do dolts like you propose that we all have to show an ID to buy fricking hand sanitizer now? Geezus flipping christ what the hell has become of Americans?
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:54 AM
 
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How is standardizing safety instruction an attack on farm kids? I did farm work as a child and some of it was very dangerous. Some of it still is and should not be done by children with or without proper training. You RWNJ's will call any potential regulation, even if it results in fewer injuries and/or death, an attack on your “Freedom” to endanger others for your own profit or personal aggrandizement.

I have a better idea using existing law. If a farm, or any other family, has kids working at dangerous jobs and the child is hurt or killed, then the farm operator should be prosecuted for negligence or manslaughter. That is just a way for forcing the boss to take personal responsibility for what he does. Do you have any problem with that?

brilliant-

So you want the federal government to arrest and imprison the parents of a kid working on his family farm? "The boss" is usually the mother and father.

The minds of liberals produce some interesting "solutions", thus the tyrannical efforts of the Obama administration.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:55 AM
 
Location: California
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So you want the federal government to arrest and imprison the parents of a kid working on his family farm?
And here we come to the end of the line (and thread..??) with the ultimate hyperbole. Well played.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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Even if these new regulations allow kids to continue to work on their parents farms, what about single farmers or those with children who have moved on who hire kids to do mundane farm chores the farmer doesn't have time for? He either has to pay a farmhand at a much higher wage to do it or he has to be there to supervise the kids he hires, when the whole point is to hire kids to take care of simple chores the farmer doesn't have time for.

Me and my brother were often hired by neighbors to do simple farm chores so they didn't have to worry about them and could focus on the main aspects of running their farm. This would no longer be an option unless they're your own kids.

It would be probably be a better option for single farmers to adopt kids as future farm workers than to worry about finding and hiring reliable farmhands
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Family farming is the last bastion of freedom and independence this country has. Agriculture used to be the backbone of America. Government and the corporate mega giants have all but killed off real farming and the family farm in America. Sad really. Not only have our rural communities been utterly destroyed but our food supply is one of the worst in the world thanks to the factory farms that have replaced the family farm. Yeah we can feed the world 10 times over............want some cancer with that GMO corn? Would you like some anti-biotic resistance with that beef? How about a set of boobies for your 8 year old from that pasteurized factory milk?

Well...that depends upon how you define corporate farming. Most family farms are incorporated for tax purposes and, hence, are counted in the "corporate farming" category. They're still family farms, though some of them are quite large.

For instance, take a look at Peri and Son's, a family/corporate operation which farms several thousand acres in Nevada and California. How would you categorize them?

The Farm Belt is doing alright. Exports are up, prices are stable and I haven't seen many depressed farming towns as I go around the country.

Frankenfood crops, insecticides, antibiotics and hormone-laced meat is another subject. However, it should be noted that since most farms are still family operations, if you have an issue with all that, maybe those farmers are who you should be talking to. Nobody forces a beef producer to feed his cows growth hormones, you know. They do it voluntarily to meet weight targets. Pounds=$.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:57 AM
 
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brilliant-

So you want the federal government to arrest and imprison the parents of a kid working on his family farm? "The boss" is usually the mother and father.

The minds of liberals produce some interesting "solutions", thus the tyrannical efforts of the Obama administration.
Nah they just want to fine em and add more to the kitty so they can keep up the ridiculous spending in DC.
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:58 AM
 
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Yeah I've read all the nonsense being spewed by the swooners.
In other words, you reject the truth in favor of clinging to a prejudice?
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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brilliant-

So you want the federal government to arrest and imprison the parents of a kid working on his family farm? "The boss" is usually the mother and father.

The minds of liberals produce some interesting "solutions", thus the tyrannical efforts of the Obama administration.
You haven't read this thread...have you?
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:01 PM
 
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In other words, you reject the truth in favor of clinging to a prejudice?
LOL. The truth and what the swooners think is the truth are two completely different animals.
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