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Old 04-30-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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No more extensions. And your old driver license will be no good in the eyes of DHS. At the wave of a hand..poof..your driver license is not acceptable.


DHS to States: The REAL ID Deadline Is Next January, Period. - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/dhs-states-real-id-deadline-next-january-period-215805119.html - broken link)
It would be a good idea for those governors to alert their residents that the driver's licenses in their pockets won't be acceptable IDs beginning next year.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:55 PM
 
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Let me guess... proof of citizenship is not required...
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Differences between getting/renewing old and new ID/driver license.
Old- just say who you are and where you live.
New- Prove who you are and where you live. Show a birth certificate or passport, your social security card and a current utility bill.
What's the big deal in 7 states that refuse to have people prove their identity?
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So one can vote for President of the United States with no proof of who they are, yet you can't fly a plane with that same concept ?
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:22 PM
 
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No more extensions. And your old driver license will be no good in the eyes of DHS. At the wave of a hand..poof..your driver license is not acceptable.


DHS to States: The REAL ID Deadline Is Next January, Period. - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/dhs-states-real-id-deadline-next-january-period-215805119.html - broken link)
It would be a good idea for those governors to alert their residents that the driver's licenses in their pockets won't be acceptable IDs beginning next year.
I don't get it. The article links to this CSDL site that says it's some not for profit org that looks like a fifth grader put together. What are the parameters and what states aren't meeting them? Are these flunkies in charge of some type of DHS ID that we now have to carry? And looking at their "perfect ID" they desire it has your social on it? That is just stupid. You lose your license they get your social too and your toast. May as well just put all your credit card numbers on it too to make it easier for the crooks.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:35 PM
 
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Here's the requirements for license at least according to Wikipedia, I'll venture to guess the states in trouble don't meet these standards:

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A Real ID-compliant form of identification requires, at a minimum, the following pieces of data:
  • Full legal name,
  • Signature,
  • Date of birth,
  • Gender,
  • Unique, identifying number,
  • Principal residence address,
  • Front-facing photograph of the applicant.
Said cards must also feature specific security features intended to prevent tampering, counterfeiting, or duplication of the document for fraudulent purposes. These cards must also present data in a common, machine-readable format (bar codes, Smart card technology, et al.). Although the use of wireless RFID chips was offered for consideration in the proposed rulemaking process, it was not included in the latest rulemaking process.[18] DHS could consider additional technological requirements to be incorporated into the licenses after consulting with the states. In addition, DHS has required the use of RFID chips in its Enhanced Driver's License program, which the Department is proposing as an alternative to REAL ID.
The PA license AFAIK would have met these requirements about 10 years ago if not more. Some of the security features include a hologram that has the counties listed in one direction and a keystone visible looking in another direction. It would be very hard duplicate.

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Old 04-30-2012, 07:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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DHS to States: The REAL ID Deadline Is Next January, Period.


States to Federal DHS: See you in court. Bring your copy of the Constitution showing your authority to tell us how to make our drivers' licenses.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:53 PM
 
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Which states are not compliant?
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:40 PM
 
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DHS to States: The REAL ID Deadline Is Next January, Period.


States to Federal DHS: See you in court. Bring your copy of the Constitution showing your authority to tell us how to make our drivers' licenses.
Technically they don't have to comply but that will leave their citizens without a state issued ID the federal government will not accept for federal services. It's common tactic, probably best example was when they instituted the national drinking age. The feds threatened to hold up federal highway funding.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:58 PM
 
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Technically they don't have to comply but that will leave their citizens without a state issued ID the federal government will not accept for federal services. It's common tactic, probably best example was when they instituted the national drinking age. The feds threatened to hold up federal highway funding.
The less dependent the states and individuals are upon the federal government the less actual power the federal government has.
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