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Old 05-10-2012, 09:19 PM
 
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As if white leadership could be any worse than black leadership in South Africa.
I think we've seen the proof of that. Or were you a fan of apartheid?
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:06 AM
 
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Africans still haven't made it out of the stone age.
You meant to say many Africans have not yet Westernized. Wrap your head around the fact that it is not the goal of the entire world and keep it moving.
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Old 05-11-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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This doesn't......sit right with me. We've all seen the effects of "white leadership" in South Africa. Not a good look.
Are Black people even better off today in South Africa than with apartheid? Just there are fewer white people there cause so many have left and I'm ain't talking about the low class whites either.

Less racism but more killings today and the word is the gov there lied about how deadly AIDS was.
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Old 05-13-2012, 07:59 AM
 
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I'm rooting for the opposition, the hell with the ANC and its craziness/corruption.

Lotta idiots in this thread. The boers have as claim to that country as the Zulu. SA was largely unsettled until the last two centuries.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:00 AM
 
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Are Black people even better off today in South Africa than with apartheid? Just there are fewer white people there cause so many have left and I'm ain't talking about the low class whites either.

Less racism but more killings today and the word is the gov there lied about how deadly AIDS was.
Not to mention you can't lump all whites together. It's time south Africa try something never tried before: a true free market, not a crony system.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:02 AM
 
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You meant to say many Africans have not yet Westernized. Wrap your head around the fact that it is not the goal of the entire world and keep it moving.
Rape is a tradition in SA.
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:05 AM
 
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It's comical how Europeans define and redefine black as it suits you. Once I read a book by a Kenyan who was ecstatic because, as a Masai, he was characterized as a Nilotic "Caucasoid". I'm not interested in how whites classify us. Boers will never be African. 7% of African blood does not an African make.

Black Africans made it all the way to the Phillipines and Australia. You really think we couldn't make it the southern tip of Africa?
But what's the incentive to do that?
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Old 05-13-2012, 08:11 AM
 
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Uk has several nonwhites in parliament, so a black pm is not out of the question. Ireland recently elected a black mayor, and Poland did something similar, as did Slovakia. If uk can have a Jewish pm, it can def have a black one.

Hell, the most powerful politician in India is an Italian.
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:11 PM
 
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But what's the incentive to do that?
I'm hoping yours wasn't an authentic question but rather a petulant, childish one. Humans usually branch out because the place they are going is more lucrative than the place they are at. There are a plethora of reasons:it's easier to live on the land, they are escaping some sort of persecution, their population has increased, etc.

What is hilarious is that while you herald the claim of Europeans to the land you overlook the fact that these people had to get on boats and go thousands of miles to a continent they knew nothing about...a continent where they had to fight to establish their right to live. What was their incentive to do that?

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Old 05-13-2012, 01:16 PM
 
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Rape is a tradition in SA.
Rape is not a tradition in any sense of the word. Rape is not celebrated in any of the indigenous ethnic groups and its explosion is relatively recent. It is very prevalent, very much akin to its high prevalence on native reservations in the U.S. Otherwise I'd be happy to know exactly which culture(s) rape was a tradition of. School me.

Native populations who discard their real traditions are generally just shells of human beings, existing as a subclass in a society that doesn't really want them and uses them for menial labor if it uses them at all. If black South Africans learned anything of use from Europeans it would've been to defend their ways of life by any means necessary. Unfortunately that is not the case.
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