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Old 05-20-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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Homosexuality is becoming not only accepted, but even encouraged at times. I understand that many with same-sex preferences have been through hell. Many have been sexually abused. Many have been struggled with their feelings & many have been treated badly for their aparent or actual sexual preferences.
I believe it's important to love everyone, no matter what their preferences. Loving someone means to want the best for them, even if it means telling them truth they don't want to hear.

Society's well being depends on the basic unit of society: family, which is based on marriage between a man and a woman.
Legal marriage is primarily for the benefit of society, especially the future of society: CHILDREN.
Children are created by a man and a woman.
Studies and common sense, show that children also thrive best by being raised by the 2 opposite sexes that created them (nature is wise).
Gay marriage denies the right for a child to have both a mother and father, & basically states, "Mothers aren't really important - 2 dads are ok, or Fathers aren't really important - 2 moms are ok." When this false!

"Children Need Both A Mother And A Father" Dr. A. Dean Byrd
Children Need Both A Mother And A Father

"Why Children need both Mother-Love and Father-Love" Glenn T. Stanton
http://www.jashow.org/Articles/_PDFArch ... I0804G.pdf

"Mothers' and Fathers' Socializing Behaviors in Three Contexts: Links with Children's Peer Competence"
Pettit, Gregory S.; Brown, Elizabeth Glyn; Mize, Jacquelyn; Lindsey, Eric
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/se ... o=EJ563106

"Why Children Need a Mother and a Father" Bill Muehlenberg
http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2010/...-and-a-father/


Another consideration is the health consequences of homosexual sex...Because statistically, homosexuals (both men and women) change partners more often and are less monogomous than heterosexuals, STDs and AIDS statistically are known to spread quickly among homosexuals, especially gay men...
CDC - Sexually Transmitted Diseases - Gay and Bisexual Men's Health
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/...nal508comp.pdf
We also know that anal sex is risky (for anal fissures, bacterial infection, colon rupture & anal cancer), even in 2 healthy males.


Why would you want to legally place children with couples who engage in harmful behavior, when children learn most by imitation?
Homosexuality is not only harmful medically, but usually it is the product of psychological problems (except for rare instances ie hermaphrodites). We are born with brains that are only 25% developed, so that our brains can adapt to environmental influences & better survive.

"1. No research has found provable biological or genetic differences between heterosexuals & homosexuals that weren't caused by their behavior.
2. In 2 large studies conducted... Homosexuals overwhelmingly believed their feelings and behavior were the result of social or environmental influences.
3. Older homosexuals often approach the young
4. Early homosexual experiences influence adult patters of behavior
5. Sexual conduct is influenced by cultural factors - esp. religious convictions
6. Many change their sexual preferences
7. There are many ex-homosexuals"
Environmental factors may influence sexual orientation
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/env...al-orientation

The APA changed the definition of homosexuality not because of scientific studies, but because of political harrassment from gay lobbyists.
The Born "Gay" Hoax |


Speaking of harassment, others' rights have been denied in order to cator to "gay rights"...
Children have the right to not be taught homosexuality in school. Yet, in places where gay marriage has been enacted, these rights have been infringed upon. Here are a few examples where those with homosexual preferences have pushed their assumed rights, which infringed on the rights of others...
*Freshmen were told not to tell their parents about a pro-gay seminar & were required to sign a confidentiality agreement (Derrfield, Illinois Mar. 2007).
*In March, 2007, a Massachusetts high school banned parents from attending a seminar for students on how they can know they are homosexual.
*In October, 2008, First graders (6 year-old students) were taken on a field trip to watch their lesbian teacher's wedding.
*In Oct 2008, a Hayward CA public elementary school celebrated "Coming Out Day."

Normalizing & even encouraging children to explore homosexuality obviously causes more to experiment with homosexuality.
"The Legal Liability Associated with Homosexuality Education in Schools... This report is part of an integrated strategy to inform and educate parents, students and school officials across the nation of its contents and of their respective rights and duties. It has documented the concern that the health of students in many schools across the country may have been compromised and their First Amendment rights may have been denied."
http://www.afamichigan.org/images/Legal ... 200504.pdf

Also, others' rights have been infringed upon in favor of supporting gay rights.
*In April 2008, an Albuquerque photographer was fined over $6,000 for refusing to be hired to photograph a lesbian couple's commitment ceremony.
*In May, 2008, a black administrator was fired from the U of Toledo, Ohio, for writing an editorial objecting to the comparison of black discrimination to same-sex marriage.
*An intolerant opponent of Proposition 8 even violently attacked & injured a Proposition supporter in Oct. 2008.
*On November 19, 2008, eHarmony, a Christian-based matching service was forced by New Jersey's Division on Civil Rights to provide website matching services for homosexuals.

Same sex couples already have "rights" under common law marriage and cohabitation agreements. Legally redefining marriage is simply trying to legally force society to accept a minority's sexual deviations.
Please strive for what's best for society's emotional & physical health - especially society's future: children, by supporting their right to be raised by a mother AND father.
Please defend marriage as defined to be between a man and a woman!

 
Old 05-20-2012, 09:08 AM
 
Location: New Hampshire
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I will defend the right of 2 consenting ADULTS to marry each other if they so wish.

The people who define marriage are the ones in it.

Why do you care if other people get married? It is none of your business.

And can you please enlighten all of us about the day you decided to be straight?

Because I am straight but cannot recall the day I woke up and decided I was going to like men.
 
Old 05-20-2012, 09:13 AM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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Marriage should be between two PEOPLE who love each other and want to marry.

See how simple that is?

As for your "facts", too one-sided.
 
Old 05-20-2012, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Mississippi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelaBeurman View Post
Marriage should be between two PEOPLE who love each other and want to marry.

See how simple that is?

As for your "facts", too one-sided.
Marriage in the US is between ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.

Last edited by InTheNameOfGod; 05-20-2012 at 09:33 AM..
 
Old 05-20-2012, 09:17 AM
 
Location: USA USA USA
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I'm actually extremely right wing and Libertarian, and I support gay marriage 100%.

What 2 consenting adults do with each other does not affect me. If they want to marry, so be it. How does that hurt me?
 
Old 05-20-2012, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Northeast NJ
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Originally Posted by InTheNameOfGod View Post
And this is the typical liberal response. You really need to find a country to support your fascist agenda.
You are the one who supports telling people what they can and can't do. That makes you the fascist. For you, I personally suggest Iran.

Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNameOfGod View Post
Marriage in the US is between ONE MAN AND ONE WOMEN.
Marriage in the US was, at one point, between one man and one woman of the same race. That changed.
 
Old 05-20-2012, 09:20 AM
 
Location: Where the sun likes to shine!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pamelaBeurman View Post
Marriage should be between two PEOPLE who love each other and want to marry.

See how simple that is?

As for your "facts", too one-sided.

This.


Besides I had a mother and a father for a very short period of time. I was raised by a single mother. Many relationships don't work out. I think kids would be better adjusted just having a loving and caring environment. I know I would rather have a gay couple raising me who loved and cared about each other and me rather then the typical male/female relationship who fight all the time. It's a no brainer for me.
 
Old 05-20-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: playing in the colorful Colorado dirt
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNameOfGod View Post
Marriage in the US is between ONE MAN AND ONE WOMEN.
At the moment, yes it is.

But things change!

This country was founded for the purpose of freedom and equality for all of her citizens, not just the straight, sexually repressed Fundamentalist Christians.

Perhaps you should forego reading your biblical fairy tales for a day and read the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
 
Old 05-20-2012, 09:27 AM
 
Location: USA USA USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InTheNameOfGod View Post
Marriage in the US is between ONE MAN AND ONE WOMEN.
One women
 
Old 05-20-2012, 09:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by SuperSoul View Post
Homosexuality is becoming not only accepted, but even encouraged at times. I understand that many with same-sex preferences have been through hell. Many have been sexually abused. Many have been struggled with their feelings & many have been treated badly for their aparent or actual sexual preferences.
I believe it's important to love everyone, no matter what their preferences. Loving someone means to want the best for them, even if it means telling them truth they don't want to hear.

Society's well being depends on the basic unit of society: family, which is based on marriage between a man and a woman.
Legal marriage is primarily for the benefit of society, especially the future of society: CHILDREN.
Children are created by a man and a woman.
Studies and common sense, show that children also thrive best by being raised by the 2 opposite sexes that created them (nature is wise).
Gay marriage denies the right for a child to have both a mother and father, & basically states, "Mothers aren't really important - 2 dads are ok, or Fathers aren't really important - 2 moms are ok." When this false!

"Children Need Both A Mother And A Father" Dr. A. Dean Byrd
Children Need Both A Mother And A Father

"Why Children need both Mother-Love and Father-Love" Glenn T. Stanton
http://www.jashow.org/Articles/_PDFArch ... I0804G.pdf

"Mothers' and Fathers' Socializing Behaviors in Three Contexts: Links with Children's Peer Competence"
Pettit, Gregory S.; Brown, Elizabeth Glyn; Mize, Jacquelyn; Lindsey, Eric
http://www.eric.ed.gov/ERICWebPortal/se ... o=EJ563106

"Why Children Need a Mother and a Father" Bill Muehlenberg
Why Children Need a Mother and a Father » Bill Muehlenberg’s CultureWatch


Another consideration is the health consequences of homosexual sex...Because statistically, homosexuals (both men and women) change partners more often and are less monogomous than heterosexuals, STDs and AIDS statistically are known to spread quickly among homosexuals, especially gay men...
CDC - Sexually Transmitted Diseases - Gay and Bisexual Men's Health
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/...nal508comp.pdf
We also know that anal sex is risky (for anal fissures, bacterial infection, colon rupture & anal cancer), even in 2 healthy males.


Why would you want to legally place children with couples who engage in harmful behavior, when children learn most by imitation?
Homosexuality is not only harmful medically, but usually it is the product of psychological problems (except for rare instances ie hermaphrodites). We are born with brains that are only 25% developed, so that our brains can adapt to environmental influences & better survive.

"1. No research has found provable biological or genetic differences between heterosexuals & homosexuals that weren't caused by their behavior.
2. In 2 large studies conducted... Homosexuals overwhelmingly believed their feelings and behavior were the result of social or environmental influences.
3. Older homosexuals often approach the young
4. Early homosexual experiences influence adult patters of behavior
5. Sexual conduct is influenced by cultural factors - esp. religious convictions
6. Many change their sexual preferences
7. There are many ex-homosexuals"
Environmental factors may influence sexual orientation
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/env...al-orientation

The APA changed the definition of homosexuality not because of scientific studies, but because of political harrassment from gay lobbyists.
The Born "Gay" Hoax |


Speaking of harassment, others' rights have been denied in order to cator to "gay rights"...
Children have the right to not be taught homosexuality in school. Yet, in places where gay marriage has been enacted, these rights have been infringed upon. Here are a few examples where those with homosexual preferences have pushed their assumed rights, which infringed on the rights of others...
*Freshmen were told not to tell their parents about a pro-gay seminar & were required to sign a confidentiality agreement (Derrfield, Illinois Mar. 2007).
*In March, 2007, a Massachusetts high school banned parents from attending a seminar for students on how they can know they are homosexual.
*In October, 2008, First graders (6 year-old students) were taken on a field trip to watch their lesbian teacher's wedding.
*In Oct 2008, a Hayward CA public elementary school celebrated "Coming Out Day."

Normalizing & even encouraging children to explore homosexuality obviously causes more to experiment with homosexuality.
"The Legal Liability Associated with Homosexuality Education in Schools... This report is part of an integrated strategy to inform and educate parents, students and school officials across the nation of its contents and of their respective rights and duties. It has documented the concern that the health of students in many schools across the country may have been compromised and their First Amendment rights may have been denied."
http://www.afamichigan.org/images/Legal ... 200504.pdf

Also, others' rights have been infringed upon in favor of supporting gay rights.
*In April 2008, an Albuquerque photographer was fined over $6,000 for refusing to be hired to photograph a lesbian couple's commitment ceremony.
*In May, 2008, a black administrator was fired from the U of Toledo, Ohio, for writing an editorial objecting to the comparison of black discrimination to same-sex marriage.
*An intolerant opponent of Proposition 8 even violently attacked & injured a Proposition supporter in Oct. 2008.
*On November 19, 2008, eHarmony, a Christian-based matching service was forced by New Jersey's Division on Civil Rights to provide website matching services for homosexuals.

Same sex couples already have "rights" under common law marriage and cohabitation agreements. Legally redefining marriage is simply trying to legally force society to accept a minority's sexual deviations.
Please strive for what's best for society's emotional & physical health - especially society's future: children, by supporting their right to be raised by a mother AND father.
Please defend marriage as defined to be between a man and a woman!
I see you have done your research. The highlighted part is what I find particularly disturbing. There was a time I favored SSM. I looked at myself as a compassionate person and personally knew some gay couples, whom I respected. It seemed like the right thing to do and other than having to get used to some odd/ssm wedding card images in the Hallmark Store and having to gently explain to my kids when appropriate about these "different" families, it wouldn't affect me and shouldn't be any of my business. We were assured it wouldn't change anything in the schools.

But that has been so untrue. My children started getting bombarded with age-inappropriate indoctrination at school. I started doing some research and was dumbfounded at what was going on, including propaganda for ssm, hypersexualization of kids, and an incredible agenda to brainwash kids' minds and actually change their values. The goal was not to help them tolerate and treat with respect those who are different from them; but to embrace that difference as totally "normal" and to sway them from any religious upbringing that may inhibit this conversion of thought. I think this is very inappropriate and may be dangerous to the psychological health of our children and society as a whole.

We will be labeled homophobic haters but it is important to stand our ground. This does not come from hate. It comes from concern. This is a huge experiment that is moving way too quickly to try and change all of society; not just get one small group treated more compassionately. We are being bamboozled with guilt, lies and bullying and our children will be paying the price.
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