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Old 05-28-2012, 03:05 AM
 
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Opponents of gay-marriage law get unexpected aid: from Muslims | Local News | The Seattle Times

For some reason this story really makes me chuckle--strange bedfellows factor, I guess. Our Democratic Gov. Christine Gregoire pushed for and got a 'gay marriage' law. She had been ambivalent about 'gay marriage' in the past, The law did not do much since we already had a 'domestic partnership' law. Nonetheless she found herself immersed in accolades. In other words, kind of a microcosm of the recent announcement by Pres. Obama.

We have in WA a process by which any citizen can move to overturn a new law. Collect enough signatures and the law goes on the ballot to be repealed or upheld by voters. Activists now say they have enough to get on the ballot. Support has come from an unlikely source WA Muslims:



Democrats have been running a quiet UTR campaign for some time seeking to add Muslims as yet another voting block, one with a huge demographic growth potential. Now all that painstaking work, alll those random sound bites, all that cultivation, up in smoke.
I think it's great. The more we see of this irrational religious bigotry and extremism against gays and lesbians, the more that moderate and rational people who wouldn't normally think about gay 'issues' too much, get pissed at the extremists trying to control other peoples lives.

Especially when the 'smear and fear' tactics of these anti-gay 'crusaders' are so dishonest - as they always prove to be.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:06 AM
 
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No only intolerant religious bigots hate gays.
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No, there is plenty of evidence that many gays are self-loathing.
Yep, the closeted gay intolerant religious bigots....
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:13 AM
 
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As much as gays hate Christians?
There are plenty of gay Christians. There are plenty of Christians who truly follow the teachings of Christ.

I don't think gay people 'hate' Christians.

But I imagine they hate the bigotry, ignorance, hypocrisy, and deliberately dishonest 'smear and fear' crusades of certain 'so-called' Christians who are far more like the Pharisees Jesus called "Hypocrites!, Blind Fools!, Brood of vipers!" in Matthew 23.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:19 AM
 
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Right, and Christians don't hate gays either, but the gays can't stop calling them names just because they don't agree on the issue of gay marriage.
Certain so called Christians absolutely show their hatred of gays and lesbians. They are the ones who call all gay people perverts, deviants, pedophiles, immoral, diseased etc.

The 'names' that gay people might call these "Christians" are quite apt:

"Hypocrites, blind bigots, ignorant haters" Hmmm...sounds something like what Jesus called the Pharisees who those "Christian" gay haters resemble so much.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:22 AM
 
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Why do married hetereosexual couples get rights that single hetereosexual couples don't?

Why do you support the discrimination of single hetereosexuals but get all upset when we discriminate against single homosexuals?
Um.... what is a 'single heterosexual couple' anyway? That makes absolutely no sense.

Can you tell me any of the protections, responsibilities and benefits that a married couple have with a marriage contract that can even APPLY to a single person?

For example, do you want the protection of being able to visit yourself when you are in hospital and make medical decisions for yourself when you are in a coma?

By they way, you have the choice to get married or not anyway.

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Old 05-28-2012, 04:12 AM
 
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What is an anti-gay proponent?

Is that the same as a traditional marriage advocate?

As for being a homosexual, how is one a homosexual if they do not engage in voluntary homosexual behavior?

Can one think themselves a homosexual and be one?
Traditional marriage? You mean 'back in the good ole days' where the man virtually owned his wife and could legally rape her?

A homosexual is homosexual even if they are virgin.

The same way a heterosexual is heterosexual even when they are a virgin.

It's the way the brain is structured, not what a person 'does'.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:21 AM
 
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Liberals are going to end up getting what they deserved.

The figured the Muslims were their best ally because they equally despise all Christians.

Much of the liberal agenda however is not in line with the Islamic plans for this country.
Is this supposed to make sense at all? Most 'liberals' ARE Christians.

You are confusing ALL Christians with the minority of loud, bigoted, hypocritical far right-wing socially ultra conservative so-called "Christians".

I prefer to call them Pharisees to differentiate them from Christians who actually follow the teachings of Christ.
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Old 05-28-2012, 04:23 AM
 
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You believe Muslims are here to destroy Christianity and so you embrace them, but the enemy of your enemy is NOT your friend.
Delusional thinking....
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:25 AM
 
Location: San Antonio
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Why is this a surprise? This is a religion that embraces violence, and whose teachings instruct its followers to "kill the infidels." At least Christians, like the preacher in North Carolina can easlily be called out as hypocrites, swaying from the basic teachings of Christ, when they embrace killing gays and lesbians.
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Old 11-18-2012, 12:18 AM
 
Location: New York metropolitan area
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Judaism was the first religion against gay marriage
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