Stance On Gay Marriage May Cost Rev. His Church (claims, quotes, problems)
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faith is a choice.. sexuality is not... people choose to be bigots...not homosexuals...
these people are evil.. they hide their hate in the package of religion and demand societal respect in the name of religion... the days of getting away with this I hope comes to an end very soon.. lets call a spade a spade...and quit with the bull$hit... there isn't anything godly or holy or enlightening about these people and their message. They're ignorant scum
So, what are you suggesting? That he should have tempered his remarks for the all mighty dollar? That church income supersedes right and wrong?
He shouldn't be whining about having a mortgage to pay and a dried up source of income if he didn't realize the effect his words would have on the congregation.
You are showing a lot of ignorance about the Bible. Jesus is known as the Word, and is the author of the entire Bible. He is not merely a human being that you can quote for his time on earth. The Word is very clearly against the practice of homosexuality (not homosexuals---they're human beings in need of salvation, same as anyone else; however, one cannot continue in the practice of sin).
Now, explain how these church members are having "the government force Christianity on others"???? Were you comatose when you read the OP? Or are you intentionally twisting the topic of the thread?
The Greek word 'logos' didn't mean 'word' in the sense that you are using it.
Do a little research on the 1st century Jewish philiospher Philo of Alexandria and you might realise where some of the precepts of Christianity (eg logos) came from:
He should have thought before opening his mouth. many churches are very political and ya better know the people you are preaching to, apparently he did not.
True - according to the policies of his church - he was fine. But he should not be surprised that his congregation thought differently - and he is leading a corporation. If you have bills to pay - you don't offend your members who you rely on to pay those things. He should have had a better feel for his congregation before he did something that drove them away.
So you think Christian pastors should just tell their congregation what they want to hear? Even if it's against the teachings of Christ?
Jesus often referred back to the Jewish law - which says that homosexuality is wrong. THe Bible needs to be read and understood as a whole body of work - you cannot cherry-pick bits and pieces and expect them to make sense.
Jesus made it clear that his life, death, and ressurection was the fulfillment of the Law - also that not one iota of the law would be erased. Those who live under the Law shall die under the law - those who accept Jesus and receive grace shall live in that grace. Jesus died to be the sacrifice for all sin - and sin requires a sacrifice. By confessing our status as sinners and accepting Jesus - Christians are cleansed from their wrongdoing and given the power to actively turn away from sin and live godly lives.
Your wish for Jesus to have specifically mentioned homosexuality is a form of legalism which Jesus abhorred. People then understood that homosexuality was wrong - just as they do now. Trying to play "I gotcha" with the Scriptures is a losing proposition.
The Bible needs to be read in the context of the times and cultures in which it was written.
Not if the denomination is wrong - and even if he thinks that the denomination is right - his priority should be the congregation - not some corporate office.
And who determines what denomination is 'wrong' what denomination is 'right'? There are something like 37,000 Christian sects each of which thinks they are 'right'.
They can't ALL be 'right'
(But they CAN all be 'wrong' )
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many churches are very political and ya better know the people you are preaching to, apparently he did not.
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