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Old 06-20-2012, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Most of these are distorted half-truths that are easily refuted. The one about the rich and taxes is easily refuted. #4 about Muslims is also easily put down. #9 has some legs to it.

All in all, I give this list a "meh."
Only in America would someone consider "meh" a thoughtful response.
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Old 06-20-2012, 11:39 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Only in America would someone consider "meh" a thoughtful response.
Ok, fine.

The terrorists / Muslims one: People of intelligence recognize that while Islamic terrorism must be stopped, it's not fair to persecute all Muslims. Most Muslims are not terrorists. This would be like persecuting all Christians because a small minority of Christians somewhere do something stupid. And so that's why we should be vigilant against a backlash against people who don't deserve it.

The rich / taxes one: We've been through this before. It's not just the percentage relative to the total taxpayers that counts, it's the percentage relative to your income. I'm all for the argument that even low earners should pay something in, but we shouldn't have a situation where the middle class and upper middle class are burdened by a much heavier tax rate proportional to their income than the top of the wealth spectrum, who have access to many tricks to whittle down their taxes to very thin rates. While we're at it, we should revise the tax code to get rid of all these deductions, which should allow us to lower tax rates across the board.

Think on that.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:26 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Think on that.

Using a 25% across the board tax rate

$25000 - 25% tax = $6250
$1000000 - 25% tax = $250000

Total taxes collected = $256250

or

Using a tiered tax system

$25000 - 0% tax = $0
$1000000 - 50% tax = $500000

Total taxes collected = $500000

If you were a citizen which would you prefer?

If you were a government, which would you prefer?
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Old 06-21-2012, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Lubec, ME
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Using a 25% across the board tax rate

$25000 - 25% tax = $6250
$1000000 - 25% tax = $250000

Total taxes collected = $256250

or

Using a tiered tax system

$25000 - 0% tax = $0
$1000000 - 50% tax = $500000

Total taxes collected = $500000

If you were a citizen which would you prefer?

If you were a government, which would you prefer?

If you were a rich person, which would you prefer?


Very stupid to burden the poor with more taxes and give the rich more money. Very very stupid.
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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If you were a rich person, which would you prefer?


Very stupid to burden the poor with more taxes and give the rich more money. Very very stupid.
That sentence shows how twisted a lot of peoples thinking is. It wouldn't be giving the rich more money. It would be letting them actually keep more of their own money that they earned. Everyone paying the same percentage is fair.
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Old 06-21-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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Most of these are distorted half-truths that are easily refuted. The one about the rich and taxes is easily refuted. #4 about Muslims is also easily put down. #9 has some legs to it.

All in all, I give this list a "meh."
How about #2:

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2. Only in America could people claim that the government still discriminates against black Americans when we have a black President, a black Attorney General, and a federal workforce that is roughly 18% black when the black population is only 12%.
Having a Black President, etc. doesn't automatically erase the racism many people do face day-to-day. That's like saying because Stevie Wonder is famous, blind people are not discriminated against, never mind the 70% unemployment rate.
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:14 PM
 
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Only in America does one have the freedom to post nonsensical rhetoric to such an extent that it starts to distort the perspectives of the ignorant.
Only in America can someone criticize someone else's entire post WITHOUT pointing specifically the item they are criticizing!
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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Only in America does one have the freedom to post nonsensical rhetoric to such an extent that it starts to distort the perspectives of the ignorant.
So typical of you *******s. Don't debate the substance, just spew your retarded BS.
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Iowa
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Most of these are distorted half-truths that are easily refuted. The one about the rich and taxes is easily refuted. #4 about Muslims is also easily put down. #9 has some legs to it.

All in all, I give this list a "meh."
Go for it...refute them.
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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Most of these are distorted half-truths that are easily refuted. The one about the rich and taxes is easily refuted. #4 about Muslims is also easily put down. #9 has some legs to it.

All in all, I give this list a "meh."
Only In America where you find people who are blinded by the mass media.
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