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Old 06-23-2012, 08:52 PM
 
Location: FL
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I'm not sure why it matters. Klinton was offered Osama's head on a silver platter and he declined, saying Osama wasn't important enough to fool with.

Bush's Texas ranch was his white house away from the white house. He worked while he was there. I know that's difficult for libs to comprehend, but he had all the equipment he needed to fully function as president, unlike Obama's many golfing expeditions.
Then why wasn't he working?
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:03 PM
 
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Bush shut down funding and operations directed towards getting Osama. What should Bush have done?-Not that

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Still, the drone program began in September 2000. One drone swiftly twice observed an individual “most likely to have been Bin Laden.” But since the CIA only had permission to use the drones for intelligence gathering, it had no way to act on its findings. The agency submitted a proposal to the National Security Council staff in December 2000 that would have significantly expanded the program. “It was too late for the departing Clinton Administration to take action on this strategic request,” however. It wasn’t too late for the Bush administration, though. It just never did.
PressTV - New NSA docs contradict 9/11 claims
The drone that saw 'Bin Laden' in Sept 2000 couldn't have done anything because Hellfire missile-armed drones hadn't even been developed at the time.

And contrary to what that article seems to say the Wiki article on Predator drones shows the USAF WAS working on weaponizing drones throughout 2001:

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Further weapons tests occurred between May 22 and June 7, 2001, with mixed results. While missile accuracy was excellent, there were some problems with missile fuzing...." In the first week of June, in the Nevada Desert, a Hellfire missile was successfully launched on a replica of bin Laden's Afghanistan Tarnak residence.
General Atomics MQ-1 Predator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:03 PM
 
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During the entire month of August, President Bush was on vacation at his ranch in Texas — which tied with one of Richard Nixon’s as the longest vacation ever taken by a president.

I've often worked from home, typically on hours long conference calls, connected to the workplace by VPN which included active email and chat windows. Not difficult to keep in touch and to multi-task.

To think that a President who is 'away' from Washington DC, at his working home is on vacation is willful ignorance. How would be conducting government business at Camp David be any different. Even on that fateful day, 9/11, that AirForce One was in the air most of the day, Bush and staff were in constant contact with functioning government.

Even LBJ was sworn in as President while aboard the Prez jet just after JFK was pronounced dead. Jackie O was right next to him.
While Bush vacationed, 9/11 warnings went unheard. - Slate Magazine
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So why do you think Clinton didn't go after him ?
Clinton did. But when Clinton ordered a missile strike to kill Osama, the Republicans, such as Arlen Specter, accused Clinton of trying to draw attention away from the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Thanks Republicans!

snopes.com: Clinton Administration and Terrorists
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:06 PM
 
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You would think with all this business that took place under Clinton, Bush would have had enough sense to take this intelligence seriously. Instead, Bush CUT FUNDING for the purpose of capturing Osama and/or obtaining intelligence about Osama.

I'm guessing you are from the party that thinks it's wise to cut military spending in half. But here you are being a Monday morning quaterback complaining that Bush cut military spending!
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Pa
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You would think with all this business that took place under Clinton, Bush would have had enough sense to take this intelligence seriously. Instead, Bush CUT FUNDING for the purpose of capturing Osama and/or obtaining intelligence about Osama.
Still does not in any way excuse Clinton's failures.
Funding for Osama's capture. Shrug. it took 10 years 2 wars and billions in waste. I am not sure nor can anyone be sure that it would have made any difference at all.
What we can be sure of is That Bill Clinton was offered Bin Laden on a silver platter and more than once.
We are sure that after 911 Bergar was caught stealing classified documents for his master. Why?
The point is their is blame to go around. Yes it happened on Bushes watch. The hi jackers came here on Clinton's watch.
It was Clinton's restructoring of our intellegence groups that prevented them from communicating with each other.
Many failures happened and bush isn't the majority owner. I am no GWB supporter by any stretch but fair is fair. Clinton and company dropped the ball and handed the game over to GWB after the winning grandslam was already hit and in the air.
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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Clinton did. But when Clinton ordered a missile strike to kill Osama, the Republicans, such as Arlen Specter, accused Clinton of trying to draw attention away from the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Thanks Republicans!

snopes.com: Clinton Administration and Terrorists
He shot blanks LOL. He had many opprotunities and opted not to exploit them.
As far as Bergers word? LOL he is a burglar.
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:11 PM
 
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Not old news because the relevant 100-plus CIA documents were newly declassified and published this past Tuesday.
You're only about 9 years behind the rest of us..

Former antiterror adviser says Bush ignored 9/11 warnings - CNN
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:13 PM
 
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You're only about 9 years behind the rest of us..

Former antiterror adviser says Bush ignored 9/11 warnings - CNN
Hello........................the CIA documents were just released. That is what this thread is about. Perhaps you might want to read the OP before commenting.......twice!
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:13 PM
 
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Clinton did. But when Clinton ordered a missile strike to kill Osama, the Republicans, such as Arlen Specter, accused Clinton of trying to draw attention away from the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Thanks Republicans!

snopes.com: Clinton Administration and Terrorists
Bull crap..

Clinton Let Bin Laden Slip Away and Metastasize
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