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Old 07-29-2012, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Deepest Darkest NZ
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The Bible verse is in Matthew 19: 3-6

"Has a man a right to divorce his wife whenever he chooses?" 4 "Have you not read," He replied, "that He who made them 'Made them' from the beginning 'Male and female, 5 and said, for this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two shall be one'? 6 Thus they are no longer two, but 'one'! What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate." Matt 19:3-7 (WEY)

Nothing in these verses shows / says / implies that homosexuals cannot marry. Jesus is responding to a SPECIFIC question about a man and woman divorcing.

 
Old 07-29-2012, 08:57 PM
 
Location: California
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actually there is. Sorry if science disagrees with your bigotry
Prove it, no opinion or theory, hard facts. Sorry you have no proof except of your stupidity.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 08:59 PM
 
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That is not a fact at all, it's your opinion, there is no proof anyone has ever been "born" a homosexual.
What do you think of the genetic ties to homosexuality? The quote below makes sense to me. My adopted brother is gay. We knew it when he was a kid. My other brother new first actually. When my adopted brother researched his birth family he found that he had a brother and an uncle that were also gay. Based on what I have been reading that's not a coincidence and none of it seems to involve opinion.
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there are two lines of evidence that homosexuality is influenced by polymorphic genes: (i) twin studies indicate that there are both genetic and environmental factors that contribute to the expression of the homosexual phenotype (Pillard & Bailey 1998; Bailey et al. 1999; Dawood et al. 2000), and (ii) male homosexuality appears to be inherited more frequently from the matriline (Pillard et al. 1981, 1982; Pattatucci 1998; Camperio-Ciani et al. 2004), suggesting the existence of polymorphic, heritable maternal effects and/or polymorphic X-linked genes influencing male homosexuality.
Genetic models of homosexuality: generating testable predictions
 
Old 07-29-2012, 08:59 PM
 
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Fact of the matter is this, homosexuals are born in every generation, they are not a perversion of nature, they are natural.
They are natural in the sense of sterile worker bees.

Their function is not to reproduce (and hence look after children) but to aid in other ways.

Studies have shown that when there is a homosexual male in the family, one of the females (often cousin or niece) is more fertile.

So this is a fertility device.

The homo male being sacrificed to create an extra fertile woman - to aid evolution in its reproductive drive.

So, as others have said, the homosexual is a reproductively useless by-product.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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They are natural in the sense of sterile worker bees.

Their function is not to reproduce (and hence look after children) but to aid in other ways.

Studies have shown that when there is a homosexual male in the family, one of the females (often cousin or niece) is more fertile.

So this is a fertility device.

The homo male being sacrificed to create an extra fertile woman - to aid evolution in its reproductive drive.

So, as others have said, the homosexual is a reproductively useless by-product.

I guess that explains why your cousin has 14 children.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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actually there is. Sorry if science disagrees with your bigotry

I guess it freaks them out think we ALL started out as GIRLS.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 09:06 PM
 
Location: California
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What do you think of the genetic ties to homosexuality? The quote below makes sense to me. My adopted brother is gay. We knew it when he was a kid. My other brother new first actually. When my adopted brother researched his birth family he found that he had a brother and an uncle that were also gay. Based on what I have been reading that's not a coincidence and none of it seems to involve opinion.
Genetic models of homosexuality: generating testable predictions
theory is not proof of anything, is there a test they can administer to a new born to determine it is a homosexual? No there is not so there is no proof anyone has ever been born Homosexual. It's not a insult it's just the true fact of the matter.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 09:13 PM
 
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theory is not proof of anything, is there a test they can administer to a new born to determine it is a homosexual?
Can they administer a test to see how smart you will be when you are older?

Can they administer a test to see if you will be good at sports?

Can they administer a test to see if you are a music genius?

Can they administer a test to see if you will be a great artist?

Can they administer a test to see if you will excel at mathematics?

Can they administer a test to see if you will be a good computer programmer?

All of these are not known until when the child is older.

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No there is not so there is no proof anyone has ever been born Homosexual. It's not a insult it's just the true fact of the matter.
No this is your uneducated and bigoted opinion.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 09:16 PM
 
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theory is not proof of anything, is there a test they can administer to a new born to determine it is a homosexual? No there is not so there is no proof anyone has ever been born Homosexual. It's not a insult it's just the true fact of the matter.
It's not a scientific theory. It's a statistical correlation, which is used as evidence. It shows a physiological component of sexual orientation. In that space it doesn't matter if there's a test for it. I suppose the various genes believed to be involved could be tested, but there's quite a bit of controversy surrounding that issue. If you google the gay gene you will see why. Oh, and you never answered my original question.
 
Old 07-29-2012, 09:17 PM
 
Location: California
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Can they administer a test to see how smart you will be when you are older?

Can they administer a test to see if you will be good at sports?

Can they administer a test to see if you are a music genius?

Can they administer a test to see if you will be a great artist?

Can they administer a test to see if you will excel at mathematics?

Can they administer a test to see if you will be a good computer programmer?

All of these are not known until when the child is older.



No this is your uneducated and bigoted opinion.
And that's your scientific proof LOL Ok I'm convinced .
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