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Old 07-15-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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Should a Legal Permanent Resident be able to draw from Social Security after qualifying by working for 40 quarters, if they have not naturalized? In that instance they've paid into the system. Just trying to find out what you are defining as a subsidized program that the applicant has helped fund through their taxes.
40 quarters is only 10 years -- they should only get back a portion, not the same as an American who has worked for for 50 years before retiring and paid in for 50 years.

And some of that fraud in the way immigrants will claim to have worked should be stopped. As it is, you can bring in ole granny when she's 52 and pay her little as a babysitter but pay a minimum into social security for 10 years and then she can retire and start getting her government handouts.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:24 PM
 
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The government can control the people by making them dependent on government aid. Is this what we want for America?
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The government can control the people by making them dependent on government aid. Is this what we want for America?
The 60% of Americans that get government aid would say YES.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:50 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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He is the same as the host on that show. They caused many deaths with their hate speech and I'm sure he has too.
If you're so 'sure,' why don't you name some of the 'many' that have been killed due to limbaugh's 'hate speech.'

I won't hold my breath
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:11 PM
 
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If you are an illegal immigrant married to a US citizen, you can draw from your spouse's benefits. If you are divorced you can also draw as long as the US citizen spouse approves the draw on their personal benefits.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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The 60% of Americans that get government aid would say YES.
I predict those 60% will be far more violent than Greece when the US government tells them that they can no longer give them the freebies.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Ah, deflection. . . the telltale sign of desperation for those incapable of proving their assertion. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but isn't the thread topic food stamps? Why are you injecting Social Security into this discussion? In case you don't know, SS benefits and food stamps are two separate and distinct issues. I doubt anyone would argue against legal workers, regardless of citizenship status, receiving SS benefits if they earned enough quarters to qualify.
Then why is there an argument for a Legal Permanent Resident that has just not naturalized being here five or more years in legal residency to get food stamps?...
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Then why is there an argument for a Legal Permanent Resident that has just not naturalized being here five or more years in legal residency to get food stamps?...
For the last time, Social Security and Food Stamps are separate programs, and funded differently. For one to qualify for SS benefits, one must have had FICA withheld from their pay, or paid directly to the IRS, AND worked enough quarters to EARN benefits. On the other hand, there is no payroll deduction for food stamps. In fact, most welfare recipients, many whom have never worked a day in their lives or paid one dime in federal or state withholding taxes, are food stamp recipients. If you still do not understand the difference, I certainly can't help you.
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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For the last time, Social Security and Food Stamps are separate programs, and funded differently. For one to qualify for SS benefits, one must have had FICA withheld from their pay, or paid directly to the IRS, AND worked enough quarters to EARN benefits. On the other hand, there is no payroll deduction for food stamps. In fact, most welfare recipients, many whom have never worked a day in their lives or paid one dime in federal or state withholding taxes, are food stamp recipients. If you still do not understand the difference, I certainly can't help you.
The difference I am talking about is a Legal Permanent Resident that is otherwise able to naturalize (five years in that status, if there has not been any lengthy periods of time outside the United States), but has not. In other words, it is not whether they have contributed, it is based on whether they have U.S. citizenship. That is the same argument that "Elanora1" had.
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