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Old 07-13-2012, 08:44 AM
 
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Obama wants a dependancy nation to institute a Socialist central government which cannot be undone. He is fundamentally changing this nation and it is not in a good way.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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If they are legal they know English.
When English is a second language, depending on one's circumstances, it generally becomes a language that is spoken and understood when convenient.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:05 AM
 
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Obama wants a dependancy nation to institute a Socialist central government which cannot be undone. He is fundamentally changing this nation and it is not in a good way.
And how people can't see this, or understand this, is beyond belief.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:17 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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IMO, the parents should be the qualifier for receiving benefits, not the kids. If the parents are here illegally then they should be disqualified from receiving benefits for their minor children born here or not.
If it is the parent(s) qualifying, then it also affects the children of "non-citizen" Legal Permanent Residents that don't qualify for time or the other requirements. How do you split that for mixed-immigration status (U.S. citizen or qualifying LPR to illegal alien/non- marriage) parents? There are an estimated six million children in the United States (of any immigration status) that have at least one illegal alien parent. No telling on the number of children with at least one LPR parent (as mine are).

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...Just curious, why is your step-grandaughter living with you? Where's the father of this child?
He's in and out, living with us about half the time. Have you thought by the criteria you mention above that you would exclude her from the SNAP qualification if our income was too low? Her mother works, but doesn't otherwise qualify for SNAP (just shy of five years as a Legal Permanent Resident, and she will only be able to attempt to naturalize herself at that five year mark, since she aged-out of any potential derivative U.S. citizenship from my wife naturalizing), with my wife not qualifying either (but being able to naturalize at any point since she has satisfied the time requirements of legal residency married to the same U.S. citizen).

Do you want to guess the ethnicity (where he is a U.S. citizen) of my granddaughter's father?...
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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Majority of illegals are hispanic.

Each time the word illegal immigration is mention, the hispanic community always voice there opinion. No other group does that.
But the qualifications for SNAP exclude illegal aliens...

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If they are legal they know English.
Not exactly. There are no requirements for a Legal Permanent Resident to know English until they attempt to naturalize. We've been over that time and time again.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:24 AM
 
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But the qualifications for SNAP exclude illegal aliens...



Not exactly. There are no requirements for a Legal Permanent Resident to know English until they attempt to naturalize. We've been over that time and time again.
And Hispanics aren't the only LPR's in this country who might not know English yet it is always Spanish speakers who are catered to and no one else. They fool no one. It isn't LPR's that are being catered to but illegal aliens.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:37 AM
 
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If it is the parent(s) qualifying, then it also affects the children of "non-citizen" Legal Permanent Residents that don't qualify for time or the other requirements. How do you split that for mixed-immigration status (U.S. citizen or qualifying LPR to illegal alien/non- marriage) parents? There are an estimated six million children in the United States (of any immigration status) that have at least one illegal alien parent. No telling on the number of children with at least one LPR parent (as mine are).



He's in and out, living with us about half the time. Have you thought by the criteria you mention above that you would exclude her from the SNAP qualification if our income was too low? Her mother works, but doesn't otherwise qualify for SNAP (just shy of five years as a Legal Permanent Resident, and she will only be able to attempt to naturalize herself at that five year mark, since she aged-out of any potential derivative U.S. citizenship from my wife naturalizing), with my wife not qualifying either (but being able to naturalize at any point since she has satisfied the time requirements of legal residency married to the same U.S. citizen).

Do you want to guess the ethnicity (where he is a U.S. citizen) of my granddaughter's father?...
If the parent who is a citizen of this country applies for food stamps, etc. for their minor children then I have no objection to that. That is the same criteria that should be used for birthright citizenship. At least one parent should have to be a citizen of this country.

What does it matter what the ethnicity of your step-grand daugher's father is? It sounds like they never even got married and may or may not even be supporting the mother of his child or his child. My house wouldn't be a flop house for my teenaged daughter's irresponsible behavior of both her and the father of her child. But then that's just me. Call me cold if you want, I really don't care. I taught my kids better than that.
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Jacurutu
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And Hispanics aren't the only LPR's in this country who might not know English yet it is always Spanish speakers who are catered to and no one else. They fool no one. It isn't LPR's that are being catered to but illegal aliens.
The announcements in Spanish do not change the qualifications for SNAP, it is merely notification. Hispanics were the larger numbers of LPRs in those targeted areas (they also may start to provide notifications in areas that have Asians now). Why is an announcement in Spanish "catering" to illegal aliens if they do not qualify themselves for SNAP?
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:46 AM
 
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It used to be that 67 percent of all expenditures of the farm bill went for nutritional aide

It is 80 percent now

Most states don't even check to see if the people are eligible before entering applicants into the program.

If you receive $1 in heating assistance, 16 states use that token $1 as a reason to enter the person into food stamp program.

The name for that ripff is.........." heat and feed "
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Old 07-13-2012, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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It used to be that 67 percent of all expenditures of the farm bill went for nutritional aide

It is 80 percent now

Most states don't even check to see if the people are eligible before entering applicants into the program.

If you receive $1 in heating assistance, 16 states use that token $1 as a reason to enter the person into food stamp program.

The name for that ripff is.........." heat and feed "
Yup..the "Farm Bill" needs to be changed to the "Food Stamps Bill".
Let Congress create another program that actually aids farmers because this one doesn't anymore.
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