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Old 07-20-2012, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Gaston, North Carolina
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i'm not reading 10 pages of back and forth, just want to say f-u to the op for your reactionary anti-gun crap.
lmfho
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:24 PM
 
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I don't think it would be too big of a deal to require everyone who wants to purchase a gun to be required to have a mental health screening. It is quite possible that we could identify some of the deranged people purchasing guns and reduce the possibility of what happened in Colorado from happening again.
Yup. That and take mental illness seriously in this country, because it's the most underfunded & draconian non system going this side of the industrialized world. How many people in prison are there because an untreated mental health issue went neglected too long? They tore down the mental institutions and told them to figure it out for themselves. This isn't working. Science isn't curing anything either. Meds treat symptoms only.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:25 PM
 
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Yup. That and take mental illness seriously in this country, because it's the most underfunded & draconian non system going this side of the industrialized world. How many people in prison are there because an untreated mental health issue went neglected too long? They tore down the mental institutions and told them to figure it out for themselves. This isn't working. Science isn't curing anything either. Meds treat symptoms only.
Absolutely.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:30 PM
 
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and who would do the screenings? some antigun psychiatrist who thinks they are doing the world a favor by preventing people from buying guns? and who sets the standard? and what part of "shall not be infringed" do people not understand? a criminal background check is fine, and even a mental health background check is fine, but to require someone to go through an evaluation before buying a firearm infringes on the right to keep and bear arms.
If you demonstrate a lack of capacity to operate a fire arm (blind) or lack of judgment, you aren't up to the rigors of your 'rights' to bear arms. The right to self defense should expand to other forms of self defense for those who cannot handle a fire arm. Furthermore, I don't care to hear y'all stretching your rights to read you have the right to have a trident submarine in a moat in your yard. You need to accept limits and read your 'rights' in terms of responsibilities. Period.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:00 AM
 
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Its seems that lefties and gun control advocates don't seem to understand that a well armed populace is the best safeguard against government tyranny yet they continue to push this slippery slope of increasingly infringing laws if not a desire for an all out ban. Why should the government have a monopoly on force while the general populace is defenseless? In Germany as fascist Hitler rose to power strict gun control was put into place and shortly afterwards various groups were rounded up and exterminated. Same thing with communism in the USSR with Stalin, the people were disarmed and afterwards the regime treated like cattle whichever group they wanted with little resisting. Many more examples abound from Guatemala to Cambodia, one could go on and on. Think it could never happen here? With today's technology it would be easier than ever for a people to be abused and controlled.

Those who forget(or never learn) history are doomed to repeat it. Our country obviously has many problems but our second amendment is one of the major things that has kept it as respectful to it's people as it has for so long and if we lose it we will pay absolute hell to get our rights back.
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Old 07-21-2012, 12:01 AM
 
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"Everyone wanting to buy a gun should be required to have a mental health screening."

I'm flanked by stupid ideas like above and those from the Brady Campaign and those of the NRA. No wonder we can't come up with reasonable and sane gun control laws.
actually the NRA supported instant background checks, and so do i.

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Yes we do...

If you have been involuntarily committed to a mental health institution and found to be incompetent, you cannot by law own or purchase firearms.
you dont have to even be involuntarily committed either, voluntary commitment can also prevent you from owning a firearm. i would suggest asking my uncle about that, unfortunately you would ahve to speak rather loudly because he has passed on.

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Good to know. That certainly is a start. Was this found to be unconstitutional? Is this not an abridgment to the right to have firearms? Why not go a step further and require the test for those who should be found incompetent.
it is constitutional the same way criminals are not allowed to own firearms. again with this test of your though, it wont change anything, and all it will do is infringe on your second amendment rights.

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If a mental health screening test was required to have a gun, there would be alot less law enforcement people carrying a badge and a gun.
not true as police recruits go through a mental screening as part of the process to get into the police academy.

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If you demonstrate a lack of capacity to operate a fire arm (blind) or lack of judgment, you aren't up to the rigors of your 'rights' to bear arms. The right to self defense should expand to other forms of self defense for those who cannot handle a fire arm. Furthermore, I don't care to hear y'all stretching your rights to read you have the right to have a trident submarine in a moat in your yard. You need to accept limits and read your 'rights' in terms of responsibilities. Period.
actually my feeling is that if you have the money, you should be able to buy a trident, or any other class, warship. do you happen to have a billion dollars laying around for such a purchase? i dont.

as for the right to keep and bear arms, while it is most obviously applied to firearms, it can also be applied to other weapons as well, like swords, knifes, fighting sticks etc.
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:04 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Yep, who in their right mind would want to protect and serve the American public...Must be crazy to love their country..
Yeah, this cop sure was protecting Americans:
Shooting of Oscar Grant by BART Police Officer - Newest and Clearest Angle - YouTube
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Old 07-21-2012, 06:05 AM
 
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Should we have mental health screening before voting?
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Old 07-21-2012, 07:13 AM
 
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Should we have mental health screening before voting?
Yes -- and we don't even know yet what may have been in those cannisters this shooter at the theater tossed, or why the investigators are suiting up in those white suits before entering his apartment. This guy had access to all sorts of dangerous substances besides guns. He was doing RNA research -- that means he could have released dangerous viruses that he was given access to -- how about a mental health screening to go to college on a high-dollar scholarship?
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