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Another thread by Steve McGarret with a title that is a lie.
While Root (a long debunked buffoon) suggests in a classic act of wild Birther speculation that Obama might have been a foreign exchange student, he does so from what he admits is a position of complete and unrefined personal ignorance. He does not say that "Obama went to college as a Foreign citizen" because he admits that he doesn't know one way or the other.
Remember, this guy has been saying for more than four years that nobody at Columbia knew Obama. And that was a lie before it ever first left his lips.
This is not about where he was born, Obama was born in Hawaii. This claim is that he used his foreign born fathers to convince schools that he was foreign born to get special considerations; which would make him a liar and a fraud.
Honestly, we don't need college transcripts to prove that.
With all due respect, mb, you're first and foremost generalizing your personal experience with all experiences of foreigners attending school in the US. The fact is that not all experiences are the same. It is not even clear to me if you were an American student studying overseas, or a foreign student studying here.
Secondly, you are confusing your different argument against the same Birther claim as an argument against what I'm saying. We are not in actual disagreement here. You are arguing that it is impossible. I am arguing that even were it true, it would be neither illegal nor commission of a fraud. These are not arguments in opposition with each other.
The Birther claim is the amorphous and largely pointless assertion that he registered at Occidental and Columbia as a "foreign student." It is a piece of wild and unsupported speculation and any further speculation regarding what preference program might be a motive for doing so is merely layering new wild speculation on top of old wild speculation.
I was an American studying abroad. My point is that you're confusing the issue by going off on a tangent about whether it was legal or not. It doesn't matter--it couldn't happen. In order to get some kind of special preference for admission as a foreign student, he would have to be enrolled in some type of special foreign student program. He couldn't have possibly provided the information or documentation to be accepted there. As an aside--every program I've ever seen like that is short term--a semester or a year. You don't get a degree from the school where you study abroad. Your degree comes from your home school. If he applied as a foreign student without being in a program--just as a regular student who happened to be international, and who planned on graduating from the American school he was attending--he would have been held to the same standards for admission as every other student.
Obama claimed he was foreign-born from 1991 to 2007, when he realized that would make him ineligible for POTUS.
No he didn't.
In every interview he gave starting at least in 1990, as well as his actual book which came out in 1995 he said he was born in Hawaii.
There does not exist anywhere as single example of Obama claiming birth anyplace other than Hawaii... except when making fun of Birthers by mocking them.
How is Historian Dude wrong? He simply stated that even if Obama did pull one over on Occidental and Columbia and tricked them into believing he was a foreign student (which H.D. clearly stated he does not believe happened), he would not have been violating the law.
It's pretty simple. If you (and by "you" I mean anyone) believe it would be an illegal act, then simply quote the law such an act violates. And I'm not saying I agree with H.D., but up to now nobody has offered any evidence to refute what he claimed.
Wow, liberals are kind of dense aren't they.
So, Romney didn't do anything illegal with regards to taxes, and there is no evidence to prove it's correct. But libs are convinced he's a criminal.
Come on now, they're both the same issue. Admit it. I know ya can.
I did a year overseas in high school, and a semester abroad in college, and both were considered foreign exchange programs, and I was called an exchange student.
Did I not already and without prompting cite both those examples as being irrelevant to the scenario posed by the Birthers here?
As I said, you are making a different argument, not an oppositional one.
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