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Old 08-08-2012, 03:13 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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How can this be?

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A new chart set to be released later today by the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee details a startling statistic: "Over 100 Million People in U.S. Now Receiving Some Form Of Federal Welfare."

This is not just Americans, however. "These figures include not only citizens, but non-citizens as well," according to the committee.
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Over 100 Million Now Receiving Federal Welfare | The Weekly Standard


They have to be lying about the unemployment numbers.
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:17 PM
 
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Here's even a more detailed report on whos using it............wonder how these people on the left can support people they think are poor...........are they poor, just don't work enough or here illegally.

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children | Center for Immigration Studies
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:19 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Add the mortgage interest deduction, and the figure is surely much higher.
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:24 PM
 
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Add the mortgage interest deduction, and the figure is surely much higher.
I bet the number would be huge if you added all of the people the government let keep any portion of their own money.
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Texas
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How can this be?





Over 100 Million Now Receiving Federal Welfare | The Weekly Standard


They have to be lying about the unemployment numbers.
The Republican Senate Budge Committee members. Hardly an impartial source, wouldn't you say?

I'd like to see a break down of the numbers and what they considered "means tested welfare."

Everything depends upon the definitions they used. The possibility of partisan spin to support their position is high.


I went to the GOP Budget Committee website and found only that chart. No supporting documentation, no explanation of how they arrived at that conclusion, no numbers, no statistics, no definitions...no nothing but a chart which you can either accept at face value or not. I noted that it says "produced by Jeff Sessions," so I went to his office website and guess what? Nothing there either.

Y'all can do cartwheels over this if you want to, but I'm calling bogus without seeing how they arrived at that figure.

Last edited by stillkit; 08-08-2012 at 03:33 PM.. Reason: More informatiomn
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:25 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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The Republican Senate Budge Committee members. Hardly an impartial source, wouldn't you say?

I'd like to see a break down of the numbers and what they considered "means tested welfare."

Everything depends upon the definitions they used. The possibility of partisan spin to support their position is high.
Yes I would as well.

This is where the information used to create the chart resides.

Survey of Income and Program Participation (SIPP)
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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What does Romney want to do about people on government welfare? I don't think he wants to abolish it like many conservatives believe should be done.
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:39 PM
 
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I draw the line at calling SS and Medicare welfare. We pay into those programs all our lives.
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yes I would as well.

This is where the information used to create the chart resides.

Survey of Income and Program Participation (SIPP)

That's interesting. I can't find anything on that website which indicates a SIPP survey has been done since 2008.
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Old 08-08-2012, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Gone
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The Republican Senate Budge Committee members. Hardly an impartial source, wouldn't you say?

I'd like to see a break down of the numbers and what they considered "means tested welfare."

Everything depends upon the definitions they used. The possibility of partisan spin to support their position is high.


I went to the GOP Budget Committee website and found only that chart. No supporting documentation, no explanation of how they arrived at that conclusion, no numbers, no statistics, no definitions...no nothing but a chart which you can either accept at face value or not. I noted that it says "produced by Jeff Sessions," so I went to his office website and guess what? Nothing there either.

Y'all can do cartwheels over this if you want to, but I'm calling bogus without seeing how they arrived at that figure.
I agree, let's see the breakdown, the site was devoid of any such information or sources, I wonder why that is, hmmmmm.
What I find sad it that some blame this on one Party or the other and that some seem be actually happy to post negative news about the Nation.
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