Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-12-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
29,094 posts, read 26,017,688 times
Reputation: 6128

Advertisements

Quote:
The measure — Amendment 2 — says Missourians’ right to express religious beliefs can’t be infringed. It protects voluntary prayer in schools and requires public schools to display a copy of the Bill of Rights.
‘Right to pray’ wins easily in Missouri - KansasCity.com

This is a cause for celebration. The people of Missouri have affirmed that the First Amendment's free exercise clause is important and valid - and has provided legal protection against attacks on any Missourian who wishes to pray in school or in public. I think it is time that such amendments are sought in all state constitutions so that religious liberty continues to be upheld in the republic.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-12-2012, 02:52 PM
 
13,186 posts, read 14,982,506 times
Reputation: 4555
Yea! I'm looking forward to the rascals that will wear a "Hail Satan!" and "Allah is the one true God" t-shirts to school. I hope they chant, in low tones, in a Pentagram on the cafeteria floor...LOL

I hope a teacher who knows what nonsense this law is, will be clever enough to try that. ......LOL

If I was teaching, I obtain good examples of Bible beaters getting away with this stuff on campus, clear photos and video. Then wear my "worship the devil" t shirts. And pray to Lucifer.

You'd score Millions in damages when the "Christians" go back on their own sponsored legislation.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2012, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
76,971 posts, read 47,651,295 times
Reputation: 14806
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
‘Right to pray’ wins easily in Missouri - KansasCity.com

This is a cause for celebration. The people of Missouri have affirmed that the First Amendment's free exercise clause is important and valid - and has provided legal protection against attacks on any Missourian who wishes to pray in school or in public. I think it is time that such amendments are sought in all state constitutions so that religious liberty continues to be upheld in the republic.
That's cool, but at the same time it seems purely political, because praying was never against the law to begin with.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2012, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
37,223 posts, read 19,219,451 times
Reputation: 14916
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harrier View Post
‘Right to pray’ wins easily in Missouri - KansasCity.com

This is a cause for celebration. The people of Missouri have affirmed that the First Amendment's free exercise clause is important and valid - and has provided legal protection against attacks on any Missourian who wishes to pray in school or in public. I think it is time that such amendments are sought in all state constitutions so that religious liberty continues to be upheld in the republic.
Nobody ever had any problems with people wanting to offer voluntary prayer.

The problms come when the school (or other government entity) chooses and promotes prayer of a particular slant. It would be most difficult to create a prayer that satisfies people of all religious stripes, be they Catholic, Sikh, protestant, Jewish, Druid, Wiccan, Atheist, Agnostic, Jain, Buddhist, Muslim - whatever. That is the reason for separation of church and state, so that one group is not preferred over another.

What "Prayer in schools" means to most of these loudmouths is "freedom to promote Christianity", and that would be very wrong and unamerican if the state did it.

Or can you honestly say that you would be OK with a state supported school promoting public prayers to Allah?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2012, 03:13 PM
 
Location: California
37,135 posts, read 42,228,838 times
Reputation: 35019
So an unneeded and unnecessary amendment for something that isn't a problem just to make people feel good. Yay.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2012, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
29,094 posts, read 26,017,688 times
Reputation: 6128
Quote:
Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
Or can you honestly say that you would be OK with a state supported school promoting public prayers to Allah?
If you mean do I support Muslim's freedom to pray in public schools - then the answer is, yes.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2012, 03:19 PM
 
79,907 posts, read 44,222,338 times
Reputation: 17209
We complain often times about how politicians will pass a law, not enforce it and then pass another redundant law. Sorry, this is doing the same thing. Voluntary prayer in school has been upheld over and over, there is no need for a law.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2012, 03:23 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
16,911 posts, read 10,596,615 times
Reputation: 16439
The "right to pray" is another stupid fundamentalists hobgoblin. Nobody has taken away anyone's right to pray, what society has done is prevented one religion from forcefully dominating and bullying the others, or the non-religious.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2012, 03:44 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
29,094 posts, read 26,017,688 times
Reputation: 6128
Here is text of the amendment from the Missouri Secretary of State Office:

http://www.sos.mo.gov/elections/2012...fulltext_1.pdf
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-12-2012, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
29,094 posts, read 26,017,688 times
Reputation: 6128
Here is an article explaining some of the problems that the amendment seeks to address:

Quote:
McGhee, whose legislation led to the amendment proposal, told FoxNews.com about an incident in which a teacher told a kindergartner singing “Jesus Loves Me” while swinging on the playground to instead sing “mommy loves me.”
Missouri votes to fortify public prayer with amendment that critics call unnecessary | Fox News

So if the kindergardener is supposed to sing "Mommy loves me" instead of "Jesus loves me" is she supposed to follow that up with "because the government tells me so"?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:32 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top