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Old 09-11-2012, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Maybe libertarianism is so misunderstood because people who consider themselves libertarians can't agree on what it is!

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Old 09-11-2012, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Perhaps because it is incomprehensible and inconsistant?
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:05 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Libertarians want to abolish all government agencies even if these agencies play a good role in protecting the goodwill of citizens.

There's good government and bad government. Libertarians have a hard time distinguishing the two.
You are confused and its reflected in the manner in which you phrased your statement (There is good government and bad government). A Libertarian would say that there is Constitutional Government and Non-Constitutional Government. The argument of what constitutes "good" from "bad" can be debated vigorously - but the question of it's constitutionality needs to be settled and adhered too. In many cases, it has been settled but simply ignored by both of the worthless parties.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:06 AM
 
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Why do you want to abolish the FDA?
Because its role is to decide for a price who is allowed to sell food and drugs in the marketplace, which is not be confused with safety.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Libertarians want to abolish all government agencies even if these agencies play a good role in protecting the goodwill of citizens.

There's good government and bad government. Libertarians have a hard time distinguishing the two.
Exactly: Libertarians have some excellent ideas, but they go to far and are extreme which is hard for most of us to accept...

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Old 09-11-2012, 10:08 AM
 
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Because if you ask 2 libertarians to define their ideology, you will get at least 3 different answers.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:10 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Because if you ask 2 libertarians to define their ideology, you will get at least 3 different answers.
LOL! That's not far from the truth. We do have a platform though, but like both of the other parties, there is great diversity in thought, belief and practice.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:11 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Because its role is to decide for a price who is allowed to sell food and drugs in the marketplace, which is not be confused with safety.


Yep totally agree, and see my post about the government creating winners and losers.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:27 AM
 
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The American two party political system serves the upper class period........This is so difficult for most American's to grasp, but, it's the truth. Any talk of third party politics at this late date in our country is certainly the stuff of daydreams. The political circus that passes for our "democratic elections" is constructed in such a way to make it appear that the two parties are really in a battle of wills to bring "good" to the American people. Welfare, corporate and individual, military spending, banking laws, securities trade rules, global trade, monopoly capitalism, all these are the real agenda of our two parties, and every one of these aspects of politics serve the upper class. Welfare, whether it be corporate or individual is just a way to re-distribute wealth. Same with the military, it's needs have been the foundation for many mega business success stories.

Global trade has brought us as much economic grief as any advantages it has offered. Monopoly capitalism, a system wherein the markets for any particular commodity are cornered by larger and larger enterprises every day, think electronics, food, transportation, schools, and of course the size of our government itself, growing every day in order to serve the corporate interests. Yes, we'll run out and vote once again, but like Linus, (US voters) and Lucy, (The government) the ball will be pulled away at the last second by corporate power so that once again they are the real winners in our democratic system they have hijacked. It doesn't really matter who attempts to change this system, they will fail because that's the way of winners and losers, winners build on their wins and losers begin the long walk down the road of apathy.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:37 AM
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Libertarianism is the flip side of communism. Both are political and social philosophies that when examined from a theoretical perspective seem to make sense. However, both require a utopian fantasy world in order to work as advertised. Libertarianism would never work in the real world with real people.
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