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Old 09-11-2012, 05:26 PM
 
Location: USA
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Yes, it's true. It's not that simple, but it's essentially true.

Without the establishment of Israel, everything in the ME since 1948 would be different. I have no way to know whether it would be better or not, but it's certain that 9/11 would not have happened as it did.

In 1948 the Joint Chiefs told President Truman that recognizing and helping Israel would damage our national security and threaten our oil supply, but as we know, the fool didn't listen.
You can make up all sorts of scenareos. And if we chopped Saudi Arabia into little pieces and made it into our personal oil farm they couldn't do squat about that either.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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This thread is going to bring out all the liberal anti Semitic nut jobs.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:36 PM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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Richard Dawkins, a famous atheist went to Palestine to interview an ex-Jewish from New York who moved to Gaza and became a Muslim. According to the Muslim guy (along with other things he said about Non-Muslims), he said: " There would be no 9/11 if there were no "State of Israel ".

Is it true what he is saying? Because of the American support of Israel, that's why they attacked us
Here is another way to look at it: If there were no United States, there wouldn't have been a 9/11.
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Old 09-11-2012, 05:58 PM
 
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Here is another way to look at it: If there were no United States, there wouldn't have been a 9/11.
Not to mention all of the middle east would be flying the Nazi flag if there were no United States.....
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Old 09-11-2012, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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This thread is going to bring out all the liberal anti Semitic nut jobs.
Your tactic of smearing Israel's critics as anti-Semitic doesn't work any more; we don't really care if you call us that. Why do you keep repeating it?
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Old 09-11-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Your tactic of smearing Israel's critics as anti-Semitic doesn't work any more; we don't really care if you call us that. Why do you keep repeating it?
If the shoe fits.
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Old 09-11-2012, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Perpetuality On Wheels
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For him/her, loyal to Isreal is first. For us loyalty to our own country is upmost important.
He threw labeling one after another that scares none.

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Your tactic of smearing Israel's critics as anti-Semitic doesn't work any more; we don't really care if you call us that. Why do you keep repeating it?
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:15 AM
 
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Yes, it's true. It's not that simple, but it's essentially true.

Without the establishment of Israel, everything in the ME since 1948 would be different. I have no way to know whether it would be better or not, but it's certain that 9/11 would not have happened as it did.

In 1948 the Joint Chiefs told President Truman that recognizing and helping Israel would damage our national security and threaten our oil supply, but as we know, the fool didn't listen.
Since the former USSR also supported the establishment of Israel it probably would have been created even if the USA had not supported at the time.

Again this person is an extremist and his opinions are biased.
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:35 AM
 
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I wonder..... if god hadn't made the apple would there still be a middle east?

If the Crusades had been 100% successful would there still be terrorists?

If the Greeks had been successful at the battle of Thermopylae what would the middle east look like today?
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Old 09-12-2012, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Bull. There Islamic nutjobs, they slaughter innocent people. Happened for 1000 years before the founding of Israel, will keep happening if Israel is destroyed. Let me guess...Muslims slaughter other Muslims, strap on Symtex vests and blow up other Muslims because of Israel too, right?
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