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Old 09-17-2012, 03:56 AM
 
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Shoulda know it, the infamous Russian anti-American propaganda rag, RT whose sole purpose to write every article to show America in the worst light possible....

You will never see an article written by RT that shows America in a positive light, NEVER....
This is not defensible imo. Not an American thing. DU isn't harmless either.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:53 AM
 
Location: 77441
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Isn't war hell?


nailed it...

we're in the business of killing people and blowing stuff up, DU is necessary to make sure our enemies have a slow and painful death.
dont wanna die ?

dont pizz us off
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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FWIW - France and Germany as well as most other European countries have special Explosive Ordinance Disposal teams tasked with safely disposing of ordinances left over from all the wars since the invention of the black powder explosive shell. WW1 ordinance disposal is com0plicated by some of the stuff being filled with extremely toxic gases such as Phosgene and liquid Chlorine. French farmers are still being killed by UXB around Verdun and other WW1 slaughter grounds.

Depleted Uranium penetrators (aka – solid shot) are designed to liquefy as they penetrate the armor. This liquid then burns rapidly when exposed to the air on the other side of the armor. This sets the targets on fire as well as punching holes into machinery and people. The burning DU produces very fine oxide dusts the get everywhere and can be carried a considerable distance by the wind. This can spread low level contamination well beyond the battlefield.

We use this material because it makes very effective armor piercing weapons (aside – Bunker busting bombs are made from worn out 155 mm cannon barrels and do not contain DU) and are relatively cheap because they use the U-235 free material left behind by the enrichment process that creates materials for the civilian light water moderated nuclear power reactors and the very highly enriched Uranium used as nuclear weapon detonators.

I believe it is the belligerents’ duty to clean up after their wars. We should be recovering the entire metallic DU as possible and recycling it into reactor fuel and encapsulating the rest. Very heavily contaminated areas are the equivalent of unmapped minefields and should be marked and kept unoccupied and unused.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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FWIW - France and Germany as well as most other European countries have special Explosive Ordinance Disposal teams tasked with safely disposing of ordinances left over from all the wars since the invention of the black powder explosive shell. WW1 ordinance disposal is com0plicated by some of the stuff being filled with extremely toxic gases such as Phosgene and liquid Chlorine. French farmers are still being killed by UXB around Verdun and other WW1 slaughter grounds.

Depleted Uranium penetrators (aka – solid shot) are designed to liquefy as they penetrate the armor. This liquid then burns rapidly when exposed to the air on the other side of the armor. This sets the targets on fire as well as punching holes into machinery and people. The burning DU produces very fine oxide dusts the get everywhere and can be carried a considerable distance by the wind. This can spread low level contamination well beyond the battlefield.

We use this material because it makes very effective armor piercing weapons (aside – Bunker busting bombs are made from worn out 155 mm cannon barrels and do not contain DU) and are relatively cheap because they use the U-235 free material left behind by the enrichment process that creates materials for the civilian light water moderated nuclear power reactors and the very highly enriched Uranium used as nuclear weapon detonators.

I believe it is the belligerents’ duty to clean up after their wars. We should be recovering the entire metallic DU as possible and recycling it into reactor fuel and encapsulating the rest. Very heavily contaminated areas are the equivalent of unmapped minefields and should be marked and kept unoccupied and unused.
The links I posted discuss this. This stays around for a long time and gets worse as time goes on.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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It does not seem to get worse for about 100,000 years. If people are still around then they will either figure it our or not. Not my concern. My concern is with the innocents being harmed by the current chemical and radiation effects.
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