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Old 09-18-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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What are you even talking about??
Well you said

"I've seen 1st hand the inequality in this country and its why I'm so passionate about helping those in need."

And you want to steal from the makers to give to the takers...

I don't expect you to understand though, it would be impossible if you were educated in Chicago....
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:20 PM
 
Location: The Brat Stop
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America needs to take care of their own before we help other countries.

America will get their shat together when they go back to making our own stuff verses out sourcing.

Australia in 2020 will be where everyone flocks too.
You Have a different view of things, and that is refreshing. Yes, Americans should take care of their own, I agree 100%.
Yes, we desperately need those jobs back which were sent elsewhere.

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Old 09-18-2012, 01:25 PM
 
Location: USA
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Originally Posted by Earlyretired View Post
Well you said

"I've seen 1st hand the inequality in this country and its why I'm so passionate about helping those in need."

And you want to steal from the makers to give to the takers...

I don't expect you to understand though, it would be impossible if you were educated in Chicago....
I own my own business. I'm a maker as much as the next person. Don't make assumptions.

From your post I'm guessing you don't know much about the economy so I won't even take the discussion that far.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:30 PM
 
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There is hardly in class warfare now.
I assume you meant to say that there is hardly [any] class warfare now.

On that point I seriously disagree. There is an aggressive war being fought against working americans by the government, and corporate America, whether or not working folks have effectively responded or responded at all to the assault does negate the fact that they are under attack.

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That tells you all you need to know about much "class warfare" there is in the USA.
Actually, it tells me very little. Social Security is a small part of the issue what is far more critical is the issue of declining real wages for American workers and the disparity between the power of workers vs the powers being exercised by corporations. Resolve that issue and Social Security becomes a minor issue.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:34 PM
 
Location: South Dakota
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I own my own business. I'm a maker as much as the next person. Don't make assumptions.

From your post I'm guessing you don't know much about the economy so I won't even take the discussion that far.
I know enough about it that I don't work and live with no debt and my income comes from investments that are directly tied to the economy....

You have fun living through the state of Illannoy's coming bankruptcy and the "temporary" tax hikes that will likely become permanent and even get raised more "temporarily" of course...

Heck when 0bama loses and the riots start maybe he will run for Governor
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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The term class warfare is used too much and readily these days, mostly by well-to-do people in order to stifle absolutely justified criticism of the current situation. When someone tells others they take and have too much, that is not warfare, that is criticism. And I guess even those well-to-do people know it, else they would not react the way they do, but admit it. But they can't admit it as they would jeopardize their own situation.
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:47 PM
 
Location: USA
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I know enough about it that I don't work and live with no debt and my income comes from investments that are directly tied to the economy....

You have fun living through the state of Illannoy's coming bankruptcy and the "temporary" tax hikes that will likely become permanent and even get raised more "temporarily" of course...

Heck when 0bama loses and the riots start maybe he will run for Governor
That doesn't mean you understand the economy. That means you made your money and now don't have to work. Congratulations. Being a person that doesn't value money as God, I could careless.

The rest of your post was just a bunch of nonsense.

As far as the economy goes though, you do understand that the wealthy still need the working class in order to maintain their lifestyles right?

Did you start your own business in order to retire early and live debt free?
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Old 09-18-2012, 01:54 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Class warfare is a myth Obama and the propagandist news media are trying their best to become reality.

When the USAG is discoverd conspiring with media matters to attack MR, we get a glimpse of the unethical, illegal activities endorsed by Obama.

Class warfare is a time honored strategy despots use to destroy unity and make their ascent to power easier.
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:01 PM
 
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When was the last time a person got a job from a rich person is the question.
10 Years of Bush tax cuts designed to create or spur jobs-job growth.
Where are the jobs?
10 years? I doubt it!

If you are going to post your opinion at least do a little research before making a fool of yourself.

More Than 8.3 Million Jobs Created Since August 2003 In Longest Continuous Run Of Job Growth On Record

WASHINGTON -- Today, the Bureau of Labor Statistics released new jobs figures - 18,000 jobs created in December. Since August 2003, more than 8.3 million jobs have been created, with more than 1.3 million jobs created throughout 2007. Our economy has now added jobs for 52 straight months - the longest period of uninterrupted job growth on record. The unemployment rate remains low at 5 percent
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Only the last 2 years is whee jobs dropped and that was because of the housing bubble bursting.
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Old 09-18-2012, 02:18 PM
 
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"Is real life class warfare coming to America?"

When did it leave?

Despite the mythology class warfare has existed IN the United States since the emergence of the Industrial Revolution. From the 1805 Cordwainers' strike to Scott Walker's union busting, class warfare has and does exist. If the question is whether or not the current covert war against working Americans will again rise to the bloody conflicts of the 20th century remains to be seen but there is only so much that any people will tolerate before it explodes into open conflict.
When I said "real life class warfare" I meant pissed off poor people from the inner city to the trailer parks coming to rich areas and shooting and killing rich folks and taking their stuff. Most of the extreme violence in American inner cities is incredibly insular. People in the city kill people who they know, personally, over money and drugs most of the time. The media-sensationalized incidents where White tourists are killed in American ghettos are an extreme statistical outlier. But what happens when the standard of living for millions in America starts to drop to third world levels? This is the end-goal of a global economy, mind you.
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