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Old 09-23-2012, 01:03 PM
 
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The street bums are a direct result of Reagan-era budget cuts for mental health programs. These loons used to be institutionalized.
If those who suffer from psychological issues are incapable of working due to that reason, then they're eligible for Social Security Disability.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Earth
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I told you what I wanted to do with them: SHELTER, INSTITUTIONALIZE, HOSPITALIZE, JAIL. Whatever is appropriate depending on the situation. What have I missed?
Jail them for what?
Or are you going to make laws specifically to criminalize living on the streets?
It's the american way.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:50 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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If those who suffer from psychological issues are incapable of working due to that reason, then they're eligible for Social Security Disability.

Surprising that it hasn't solved the issue, then.

You hear it again and again, from the most surprising of sources. Ronald Reagan created massive homelessness when he became president, and one of the main reasons was ordering mental hospitals and asylums shut down, forcing people out on the streets. These lunatics, schizophrenics, and mentally disturbed people had no ability to fend for themselves and ended up slumped on sidewalks and under buildings, muttering to themselves.

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I too, have seen the masses of weird, obviously unbalanced human refuse that tend to move towards the south and populate street corners as the weather cools. Most appear to me to be unable to function well enough to do much more than gather hand-out cash and waddle into convenience stores to buy cheap wine. Apply for social security disability? Maybe they're eligible, but I doubt many are capable of of supplying an address or other documentation.
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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How about each conservative adopting a baby that would otherwise be aborted
I have no problem with that. In fact they wouldn't grow up to be a burden on society like they would be if left to liberal parents (baby daddy & mommy).
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:54 PM
 
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Maybe they're eligible, but I doubt many are capable of of supplying an address or other documentation.
Then, what you're getting at is that your accusation against Reagan, of whom I'm not a fan, is that he expanded liberty for those whom you wish to restrict liberty. Yes? Like a poll test, you want a freedom test.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:05 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Then, what you're getting at is that your accusation against Reagan, of whom I'm not a fan, is that he expanded liberty for those whom you wish to restrict liberty. Yes? Like a poll test, you want a freedom test.
Who's post are you replying to?

Mine had nothing whatsoever in connection to yours.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:12 PM
 
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Who's post are you replying to?

Mine had nothing whatsoever in connection to yours.
Sure it did. You're implying that people who are unable to supply documents and suffer from mental illness should be imprisoned in institutions, which you claim that Reagan had eliminated. By your values, a person who is mentally ill must be able to supply documents in order to remain free. That's a freedom test.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:12 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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where I live there are plenty of street bums, winos and junkies , generally stinking the place up and begging for money.

they serve no purpose whatsoever for society so what should be done with them?

most of them cannot change even if they wanted to - so should they just be shipped off to a remote island somewhere, or perhaps repatriated to a 3rd World nation (seeing as we take in a lot of trash from those parts of the world) - a kind of quid pro quo as it were.

what do all you all think?
If it were up to me, they'd be rounded up, given $10, a brown bag lunch, a parachute and I'd be more than happy to play jump-master and kick their goat-smelling asses out the back on a drag run over some crap-hole country like Somalia, or Myanmar or Afghanistan.

But I'd settle for they way Eastern European countries handle them, you just round them up and ship them off to a farm, or coal-mine, salt-mine or oil field to work, or some construction project.

Here I thought tigani where the most useless freaking people on Earth. The "homeless" (snicker) are twice as useless. All they do is take up space, use up resources, cause tremendous losses in property damage to both public and private property, engage in crimes and generally make a mess of things.

You're right about them not changing. You reach a point were the only possible chance is intervention through Behavior Modification Therapy (a sort of brain-washing or deprogramming if you want). It's an highly structured environment where every single minute of their time is consumed either working, eating, or attending therapy/behavior/treatment classes from 5:30 AM to "lights-out" at 10:00 PM with only an hour of personal time (9:00 PM to 10:00 PM).

No stimuli, meaning no TV, no radio, no DVDs, no CDs, no music at all, except perhaps classical music, no magazines or anything, just the local daily newspaper.

After 3-5 years of that regimen, some of them might actually progress to a point where they don't have to be supervised 24/7 and they can have an extra hour of personal time, and perhaps listen to the radio 1-2 hours per week.

Come to Cincinnati, and I'll introduce you to some of the "chronic homeless" (snicker) -- that's the Liberal euphemism for Total Loser -- like Chris and Chris. She's a prostitute, he's her "pimp," she'll turn tricks for drug and beer money, and then won't give it all to Chris, so he'll beat her up, and then he'll end up in lock-up for 3 to 90 days, then he'll be out and its Lather, Rinse, Repeat.....and they've been doing that since 2002 when I worked at the federal court house --- about 10 years...on the streets. Sometimes he beats up other "homeless" pukes and takes their money, dope or beer, and he ends up in lock-up.

"Homeless" is big time money. You get your city, county, State and federal grants, and then your grant money from private charities and trusts, and then donations, and it pays good. I'll take you around to like the Drop Inn Center, Gospel City Mission, the Homeless Coalition, and other groups that profit off of the "homeless" and you can see what kind of cars those people are driving, and the way they dress (and no, they ain't shopping at Wal-Mart).

On another thread a year or two ago, I posted links to one of the national homeless group web-sites, and you're throwing away $90,000 per homeless person per year.....and the amount keeps increasing, so $35,000 per "homeless" puke per year or $90,000 per "homeless" puke per year, it doesn't make any difference.

Flight-checking...

Mircea
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:15 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Sure it did. You're implying that people who are unable to supply documents and suffer from mental illness should be imprisoned in institutions, which you claim that Reagan had eliminated. By your values, a person who is mentally ill must be able to supply documents in order to remain free. That's a freedom test.
Oh, now I get it. You think I'm the social security administration.


<hint> I'm not.

Please address your concerns to the authorities. And in the meantime, celebrate the freedom of the homeless mental defectives.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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Oh, now I get it. You think I'm the social security administration.
No, I think your support of imprisoning the mentally ill or a freedom test indicates that you're a social authoritarian like the average Republican.
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