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Old 09-29-2012, 10:28 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Israel is in a perpetual state of Economic benefit from the billions we give them a year.

You mean military benefit and its only 5% of their military budget. Israel gets economic benefits from Germany as reperations from WW2 and none from the US.
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Old 09-29-2012, 10:38 PM
 
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You mean military benefit and its only 5% of their military budget. Israel gets economic benefits from Germany as reperations from WW2 and none from the US.
Israel receives foreign aide from us to the tune of 5 billion dollars a year, mostly coming from our tax dollars. We cash out for other countries in the region, but nowhere near as much. I understand that's mostly military industrial complex funding: why would WE give reparations to Israel? This is not good policy with the deficit we have. We coddle them, no way about it.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:18 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Israel receives foreign aide from us to the tune of 5 billion dollars a year, mostly coming from our tax dollars. We cash out for other countries in the region, but nowhere near as much. I understand that's mostly military industrial complex funding: why would WE give reparations to Israel? This is not good policy with the deficit we have. We coddle them, no way about it.
You need to do some reading. Israel does not get aid. It gets a payment of approx $3.1 Billion per the Treaty the US drew up between Israel and Egypt. 75% of it comes back to the US as Military purchases leaving $760 Million to do with it as they wish. No other country has this constraint. Israel gets $0 in economic aid. But of course you forgot to list the Palestinians who get $100's Million to do with as they wish. And do you know what they do with theirs? They use it to pay Palestinian criminals sitting in jail a salary if it was a crime against Jews.

...none from the US means no economic aid and not reperations.
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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75% of it comes back to the US as Military purchases leaving $760 Million to do with it as they wish. No other country has this constraint. Israel gets $0 in economic aid.
Well, which is it, zero or $760 million?
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:46 AM
 
Location: Italy
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If Israel takes out Iran...good for them, and good for the entire world. Iran is a menace to everyone. Why do you think Iran's nuclear program in "non-existant"???? They are trying to develope weapons to kill us...and anyone who disagrees with them. And yes...Iran HATES Jews and Israel...and the U.S., too.
If Iran hated Jews, there wouldn't be any Jews living there.

BTW, I don't feel menaced by any Iranians. On the contrary..


Peace!
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:23 AM
 
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If Iran hated Jews, there wouldn't be any Jews living there.

BTW, I don't feel menaced by any Iranians. On the contrary..


Peace!
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The Iranian extremist government is anti-Israel as it helped fund all these years terrorist groups (such Hizbollah & Hamas) to attack Israel.

The average Iranian citizen just wants to live a normal life so they aren't anti-Israel and have nothing against Jews.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:32 AM
 
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Egypt is benefiting financially, another aid check just written, and Egyptians want to kill us.

Go figure that one out.
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Old 09-30-2012, 07:59 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Well, which is it, zero or $760 million?
None of it is aid. But while you're here why should Egypt or Jordan get any, but yet you stay quiet about the money they get from the US?

Egypt in a few days will have their $3 Billion ($1.8 Billion from the treaty, Interest on $3 Billion in loans (Israel has no outstanding loans from the US) has been set to 0% and $1 Billion of the loans is to be written off as a gift.
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Old 09-30-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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If Iran hated Jews, there wouldn't be any Jews living there.
Because it currently fits their agenda. If Iran or one of its proxies wiped out Israel the Jews would serve no purpose and would either be forced to convert to Islam or be killed. Iran hates Christians too as their populations have dramatically dropped in the past 30 years in Iran to the tune of being 70,000 less.
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Old 09-30-2012, 09:18 AM
 
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[/indent]They are not a menace by invasion. They are a menace by instigation.
Which is their only defense form a menace of invasion since trying to take their oil in the 50s. Same reason we don't like Venezuela. Nationalize your oil, or other resources, make a mega corp angry, and you can expect the enmity of Western governments.


https://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/06/24-1

Right or wrong this is what drives our foreign policy. More often than not, its wrong.

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They arm Syria, Hezbollah and Hamas.
Israel created Hamas. Israel by instigation. And Syria? According to the then leader of the Israeli defense force Moshe Dyan Israel instigated it:


Truths about the Six-Day War: U.S. CIA & military secretly helped Israelis
The 67 war has brought the big chance to grab the land, and along with the land, the water of the of the Jordan Riverheads. Dayan insists that the decision to attack Syria was not motivated by security reasons: You do not attack the enemy because he is a bastard, but because he threatens you, and the Syrians in the fourth day of the war were not threatening us. He adds that the initiative of Colonel David Elazar to open the Syrian front was assisted by a delegation sent to prime-minister Eshkol by the Northern kibbutz's, who did not even try to hide their greediness to that land.
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They are now sending soldiers into Syria to aid Assad. They create front companies and transfer cash through small banks to aid their agenda and fund mini attacks around the world. No matter what rhetoric they spew, their agenda is global domination and not Islamization. Israel is a misdirection meant as a distraction. If Mecca and Medina were not in Saudia Arabia, their agenda would be to blow them up first. Because with them gone, Iran becomes globally more powerful because of oil.
Ya think? Syria is one of their only allies against a world led by the US and Israel against them.


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The US needs to realize the only to deflate them is to stop the cash flow to OPEC. We need to get out of this mindset of them using up their oil first, then we'll start using more of ours. If we need to sacrifice one US state to save the whole country, then so be it. Its not a political issue, its survival. What do you think the Arab countries are thinking as their reserves dwindle? Do you think they are ready to become as powerless as Egypt or do they have an underlying agenda that really has nothing to do with Israel. Because if were truly Islamization or Arabization then Kurdistan would be a country already and there would be no need for the PKK. But instead numerous kurds are killed daily by Muslims and it doesn't even make into the middle of a newspaper.
The US needs to get its head out of its ass first.
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