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Old 10-08-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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Correct but what I'd a group of people have nothing to fall back on? Then what? If I apply for welfare, you complain, if I rob someone, you complain. If everyone had a little corner to run to I see no problem with it.
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Old 10-08-2012, 09:56 AM
 
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Should race be a factor when hiring?

They says its supposed to boost diversity.

No-

I really cannot think of a situation in which it should matter. Why not just hire the best person?
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:05 AM
 
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Should race be a factor when hiring?

They says its supposed to boost diversity.
Depends on the job. Say your in marketing and you need to hire somebody to push a product and your base is a particular group. Who are you going to hire someone who is also in that group? Of course you are.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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Should race be a factor when hiring?

They says its supposed to boost diversity.
Race should not be a factor, in anyway, when hiring.

if you limit or promote any specific race, than you are not selecting people based on their ability/talent.

The issue is that people are biased, and may not recognize the best people versus their own internal biases. Laws were setup to accommodate for this issue.

yet every law has a con and a pro.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:15 AM
 
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You're right. What makes a Chinese restaurant Chinese ?
Sometimes you want segregation because it enhances your business, especially if it's a cultural business.

I have no problem with that. And it goes for all races.
You can be cultural without segregation.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:17 AM
 
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Nothing wrong with thr but what if that business doesn't like a certain group of people? You can't force the business to hire them.
Then its a lawsuit.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:18 AM
 
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Nothing wrong with thr but what if that business doesn't like a certain group of people? You can't force the business to hire them.
If a business does such, well... that is their choice. It happens all the time anyway and you are correct, we can't "force" a business to hire someone, nor should we. It is just a fact of life that some people or "groups" will have various prejudices and it will effect who they choose to do business with. I think liberty is best served by protecting an individuals right to be free to choose who they will work for and who they will hire regardless of the subjective factors they choose to apply.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:19 AM
 
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Depends on the job. Say your in marketing and you need to hire somebody to push a product and your base is a particular group. Who are you going to hire someone who is also in that group? Of course you are.
Culture/demographic/background may be required for some jobs.

I mean if you work for BET, chances are your black. . .but ability can still have an impact. Just look at Barbara Zaneri

Consumer Goods Companies want "American Culture consumers"

Though I don't see the above. . .most of the time. I have worked for several CPG companies and the mantra is "I am not my consumer" i.e. you must understand, learn, research, ask. . .


So i think the above is true, mostly, in extreme niche products. . .but not at Nestle, P&G, and Campbell's soup
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You can be cultural without segregation.
Yes you can. But, as I pointed out, it can enhance your business and make it more marketable to customers.

An Italian restaurant where you hear the help talking in Italian makes it seem more authentic.
Same with a Chinese restaurant or Vietnamese soup place.

People have preconceived ideas; that's just life.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:28 AM
 
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Correct but what I'd a group of people have nothing to fall back on? Then what? If I apply for welfare, you complain, if I rob someone, you complain. If everyone had a little corner to run to I see no problem with it.
Give an example.
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