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Old 10-12-2012, 12:43 PM
 
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I don't say taxes are theft, but if you don't see a difference between that and profit, your time may be better spent with a book.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:59 PM
 
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How can one survive without spending money?

Taxes benefit society as a whole. You see a return.


Whether you want to bring up economic theories or not, the fact still remains that profit is theft.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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businesses earn profit, government does NOT earn taxes.
So you're saying a company working out of Somalia has just as good a chance of success as a company working out of the US?
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:17 PM
 
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How can one survive without spending money?

Taxes benefit society as a whole. You see a return.


Whether you want to bring up economic theories or not, the fact still remains that profit is theft.
so what you are saying is that if i were to make a product and sell it on the open market, i should sell for just enough to cover the production of said product? what about my labor in making the item? and what happens if i an just covering costs, and my costs go up slightly? how many times would i be ale to raise my prices when my costs go up before consumers buying my product decide they have had enough, and go to a competitor? on the other hand, if i sell the item for a reasonable mark up, so that i return a profit, when my costs go up slightly, i can keep my price the same and find other ways to lower costs if need be.

profit is not theft, taxes are not theft. however profits are EARNED, where as taxes are TAKEN.

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So you're saying a company working out of Somalia has just as good a chance of success as a company working out of the US?
that depends on the regulations, tax code, labor issues, etc.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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that depends on the regulations, tax code, labor issues, etc.
I'll answer that for you... Somalia has none of them.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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This thread reminds me of the irony of some user names.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Regarded as theft by whom?

A seriously flawed argument. Government forces people to pay taxes. A business does not force the consumer to purchase a product. One is mandatory while the other is voluntary. What's more, profit is the only way a business makes money. If there isn't profit after a business has recouped expenses, then it might as well not operate in the first place. Something tells me you need to go back to school and study economics rather than political science.
Something tells me your use of 'study' in this case is liberally applied... no pun intended. Okay, maybe a little.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:32 PM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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Libertarians say tax is theft, but they support the free market. What they fail to realize is that the free market runs on one principle: Profit. Profit is theoretically theft. According to natural law, to exceed income to expenditure, is a form of gimmick. This could be regarded as theft.


You can't have it both ways.
Probably the same thing as PRO being the opposite of CON, does that mean CONGRESS is the opposite of PROGRESS
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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the fact still remains that profit is theft.
No. You're simply wrong. I mean really wrong. So wrong that your teachers, if you've ever had any, would be so embarrassed that they'd likely quit their jobs if they ever read this thread.

theft
n. the generic term for all crimes in which a person intentionally and fraudulently takes personal property of another without permission or consent and with the intent to convert it to the taker's use (including potential sale).

Please explain how by my going to Wal*Mart and buying a bottle of Windex, Wal*Mart has committed that crime.

You've easily won the "dumbest post of the week" and "dumbest post of the month" awards, and you have a hell of a chance at "dumbest post of the year." Congratulations.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:45 PM
 
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so what you are saying is that if i were to make a product and sell it on the open market, i should sell for just enough to cover the production of said product? what about my labor in making the item? and what happens if i an just covering costs, and my costs go up slightly? how many times would i be ale to raise my prices when my costs go up before consumers buying my product decide they have had enough, and go to a competitor? on the other hand, if i sell the item for a reasonable mark up, so that i return a profit, when my costs go up slightly, i can keep my price the same and find other ways to lower costs if need be.

profit is not theft, taxes are not theft. however profits are EARNED, where as taxes are TAKEN.



that depends on the regulations, tax code, labor issues, etc.
You're not understanding what I'm saying.

Creating a profit margin is theft because you are expecting more in revenue than what it cost you to produce. That's duping someone. I'm not saying I'm against profit. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of those who label taxation theft when they have no problem with the profit motive.
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