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My office has 40ish people. About 8 are men - all but 2 or 3 are in high leadership positions. In many cases, the men were promoted (by the men in power) over women who are more qualified. And I work in higher ed, not corporate America.
Right now I'm dealing with an issue where a guy who graduated a year behind me and therefore has a year less experience (I've been working at my alma mater for 2 years, he for 1). He and I have different roles so we are not in competition, but we are good friends and discuss this sort of thing. He went from being on my level to being an assistant director in less than a year, close to doubling his salary. I have worked my tush off for 2 years and my boss is really pushing her boss to give me both a significant raise and a promotion, but in the 6 months she's been trying, nothing has moved. I am significantly underpaid and have much lower of a title than I should have given the work that I do. I was hired to be a glorified secretary - now I'm in charge of social media, email marketing, marketing and communications for our recent grads program, and all aspects of registration for our largest event - plus a fair share of copywriting and editing, print mail production, and front line helpdesk troubleshooting. I've gained significant experience, including taking computer programming classes on my own time. And yet I'm paid at the same level as people who answer phones, run reports out of a database, and stuff envelopes. It's incredibly demoralizing. In comparison, my friend's (male) boss suggested to the (male) head of the department that my (male) friend should get a promotion and raise. Within weeks it happened. Twice. He's 23 years old with 1 year of job experience making close to what my boss makes with 10 years of experience and a masters degree in our field from Harvard.
I don't make it public knowledge that I can't leave my current job because of fear of losing FMLA, but that's the only reason I haven't left. My health is in too precarious of a position to leave a job where I know my access to health insurance is secure if I relapse with my cancer.
My office has 40ish people. About 8 are men - all but 2 or 3 are in high leadership positions. In many cases, the men were promoted (by the men in power) over women who are more qualified. And I work in higher ed, not corporate America.
Right now I'm dealing with an issue where a guy who graduated a year behind me and therefore has a year less experience (I've been working at my alma mater for 2 years, he for 1). He and I have different roles so we are not in competition, but we are good friends and discuss this sort of thing. He went from being on my level to being an assistant director in less than a year, close to doubling his salary. I have worked my tush off for 2 years and my boss is really pushing her boss to give me both a significant raise and a promotion, but in the 6 months she's been trying, nothing has moved. I am significantly underpaid and have much lower of a title than I should have given the work that I do. I was hired to be a glorified secretary - now I'm in charge of social media, email marketing, marketing and communications for our recent grads program, and all aspects of registration for our largest event - plus a fair share of copywriting and editing, print mail production, and front line helpdesk troubleshooting. I've gained significant experience, including taking computer programming classes on my own time. And yet I'm paid at the same level as people who answer phones, run reports out of a database, and stuff envelopes. It's incredibly demoralizing. In comparison, my friend's (male) boss suggested to the (male) head of the department that my (male) friend should get a promotion and raise. Within weeks it happened. Twice. He's 23 years old with 1 year of job experience making close to what my boss makes with 10 years of experience and a masters degree in our field from Harvard.
I don't make it public knowledge that I can't leave my current job because of fear of losing FMLA, but that's the only reason I haven't left. My health is in too precarious of a position to leave a job where I know my access to health insurance is secure if I relapse with my cancer.
That's a problem in most Western countries, despite emancipation etc. I have no idea why that is and why there are not more law suits fighting those conditions. I mean, when two people have the same jobs at the same company and still get paid differently based on their sexes, people should take to the courts and set examples.
My office has 40ish people. About 8 are men - all but 2 or 3 are in high leadership positions. In many cases, the men were promoted (by the men in power) over women who are more qualified. And I work in higher ed, not corporate America.
Right now I'm dealing with an issue where a guy who graduated a year behind me and therefore has a year less experience (I've been working at my alma mater for 2 years, he for 1). He and I have different roles so we are not in competition, but we are good friends and discuss this sort of thing. He went from being on my level to being an assistant director in less than a year, close to doubling his salary. I have worked my tush off for 2 years and my boss is really pushing her boss to give me both a significant raise and a promotion, but in the 6 months she's been trying, nothing has moved. I am significantly underpaid and have much lower of a title than I should have given the work that I do. I was hired to be a glorified secretary - now I'm in charge of social media, email marketing, marketing and communications for our recent grads program, and all aspects of registration for our largest event - plus a fair share of copywriting and editing, print mail production, and front line helpdesk troubleshooting. I've gained significant experience, including taking computer programming classes on my own time. And yet I'm paid at the same level as people who answer phones, run reports out of a database, and stuff envelopes. It's incredibly demoralizing. In comparison, my friend's (male) boss suggested to the (male) head of the department that my (male) friend should get a promotion and raise. Within weeks it happened. Twice. He's 23 years old with 1 year of job experience making close to what my boss makes with 10 years of experience and a masters degree in our field from Harvard.
I don't make it public knowledge that I can't leave my current job because of fear of losing FMLA, but that's the only reason I haven't left. My health is in too precarious of a position to leave a job where I know my access to health insurance is secure if I relapse with my cancer.
For every story like yours one can find stories that are the opposite.
Where I work we have a techinician system. For each pay grade demonstrated skills and performance are need to advance. You must then test and have a score of 85%. That is for men. Women need a score of 75%.
No harm no foul I aced my mechanical and Tech general tests. But what happens when a line in trouble needs advanced mechanical skills and the female promoted with a much lower score is in charge???
It falls to the the tech 3 male who grew up on the farm to fix the problem.
Until we level the field for everyone there will be cases of discrimination. You talk about health concerns. What is your reliability as compared to the male who was promoted? How many days have you missed as compared to him? As a team leader when I am looking at who I will put in the next leadership position reliability is a huge factor. I want technical skill too, but if tech B is always out on DB or FMLA I will look at someone I can depend on even if their skills are inferior. I can build their skills much easier than I can fix a persons reliability especially if they are riding the DB/ FMLA train. I am not for a minute suggesting yours or anyone elses medical problems are not valid. I am suggesting that I have a business to manage and I need leaders who will show up for work everyday.
my boss is really pushing her boss to give me both a significant raise and a promotion
So she tells you. Perhaps she has only so much to spend and has directed most of it not to you. If she really has no power to promote you than she is not the one you should be negotiating with.
I would like women to get even more pay so I could retire and move in with one.
I dare you to write that in the relationship folder.
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