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Old 10-18-2012, 12:55 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Affordable housing destroys neighborhoods.


Ever notice that affluent Dems who support affordable housing never support it in their own neighborhoods?
Can you point out some affluent 'we're in this together' conservatives who support it in their own neighbohoods?
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:07 PM
 
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Can you point out some affluent 'we're in this together' conservatives who support it in their own neighbohoods?


There is a huge difference. Conservatives are AGAINST public housing and we are obviously against it in our own neighborhoods. YOU DEMS are for public housing but against it in your own neighborhoods. Notice the flaw?


Can you list ANY neighborhood that ever improved with low income housing? There is none. The people who live in low income housing destroy schools and neighborhoods. School graduation rates drop, crime increases, trash and litter increase.


Can you tell me how the " we are in it together" liberals think we are in it together when you always want someone else to support you and your illegitimate kids? Did we make those kids togehter? Did we quit school together?
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Old 10-18-2012, 01:31 PM
 
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Since when did conservatives come up with the chutzpah to say we're all in this together?
Doesn't take chutzpah to state the obvious.
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Old 10-18-2012, 03:58 PM
 
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Sporry, i don't feel sorry for you.

Home prices and mortgage rates are at the lowest you will ever see.

QUIT renting and buy something and stop your constant whining about renting!

According to Mortgage News Daily (since when did they become a daily??? ), half of all low-income renters spent at least half their income on housing. It is entirely unrealistic to even THINK they can buy a home.

And for years I have been saying that the private sector should have the economic freedom to build tiny affordable properties that these people could actually afford to buy.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:00 PM
 
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another gimmick to steal other peoples money

Governments have been stealing renters' money for nearly a century through zoning and discriminatory taxes on rents and rental properties.

Read Thomas Sowell's Markets and Minorities, Chapter 7, to see how it works.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:03 PM
 
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Or he can continue renting. Nothing wrong with renting. Just stop whining because you aren't being handed a free home!!!

Nobody is asking for a free home...only for the right to BUY a home from a WILLING SELLER at a price determined by the FREE MARKET.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:09 PM
 
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What amazes me about the OP is that if this transfer tax is the only thing standing in the way then I would submit that the individule simply can't afford to own a home. What some people who have only rented can't seem to grasp is that homeownership involves more than simply paying the mortgage.
Up keep.
Maintenance
taxes
unforseen failures like water heater, well pump, broken pipes etc.
That is why one should have at least 20% to put down and and I would say 5% in a savings account for just such emergencies.
They make excuses all day everyday why it isn't fair to them.

In the long run renters bear all the costs of owning a home, plus (in many states) higher property taxes as well as a hefty profit for the landlord.

When the home you're renting has an extra $1,500 property tax because it's a rental, maybe you COULD afford to own it instead of rent it.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:13 PM
 
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Liberals are 'in this together' until the bill comes.

Except that zoning allows the homeowner majority to pass along extra costs to renters that the homeowners don't have to pay.

Structured correctly, a transfer tax could precisely offset the existing redistribution from renters to homeowners and thus restore a level playing field.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:16 PM
 
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Liberals think that we should tax the producers thus eliminate investment ;then borrow until we can't any more .They are like the Greeks who can't see that wealth sharting started in the 60's means more at the bottom.

Zoning redistributes income from renters to homeowners. Thomas Sowell says so and I am in no position to argue with him, and he is certainly no liberal.

All I ask is that renters get back the same amount - no more, no less - that has been redistributed to homeowners.
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:21 PM
 
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Affordable housing destroys neighborhoods.


Ever notice that affluent Dems who support affordable housing never support it in their own neighborhoods?

Affordable housing plus "fair housing" laws + liberal judges destroy neighborhoods.

If landlords were free to prefer applicants of good character over gangbangers, neighborhoods in the private sector would be doing fine.

Public housing was a decent place for working class families to live until the minimum income requirements were elimiated and the welfare underclass was allowed to move in.
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