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Old 10-25-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Which Indians do you mean? The Comanches/Apaches etc.? Or the Anasazi who came before them? Or the ones that came even before THEM? They are all VERY different groups, you know, both in culture and in time.

Careful what you wish for.
How about the ones who live there now?

Havasupai Indian Reservation - Grand Canyon National Park
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:22 PM
 
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Hey!!!!! I'm 1/867493748TH Anasazi. I'm headed that way to pick up my canyon!!!
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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I actually feel that The National Park System is an example of a Federal program (paid with Federal Tax dollars) that works and is a true gift from one generation to the next.

Of course, I am ineligible to vote either way on it.

But if AZ takes it away from The US, who's to say that some Indian Tribe (and their are many in that region - in fact, The Hualapai Tribe built and owns The Skywalk (glass bottom) Bridge on tribal land over The Canyon) wouldn't then similarly challenge ownership in Federal Court?

Shame on AZ, if their citizens are successful in this takeover.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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The Havasupai Indians live in a small village called Supai at the bottom of the canyon.

I don't suppose all the "Let's mine for uranium!" proponents want to ask them what they think.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:34 PM
 
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But if...
There is no BUT or IF. It ain't never gonna happen regardless of the "sovereign" fantasies of bat****-crazy-been-out-in-the sun-way-too long Arizonans.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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There is no BUT or IF. It ain't never gonna happen regardless of the "sovereign" fantasies of bat****-crazy-been-out-in-the sun-way-too long Arizonans.
I'm hoping you are correct.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Ironically there is plenty of Uranium ore outside the Park. These Yahoos just want all of it. Greedy control freak bastards.
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Old 10-25-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: NC
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So according to this prop, this gives them domain over military installations and Indian Reservations too, if you go with the wording.

One meme: LoL

Never going to happen. Every court would throw it out even if it passed.
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The national park is bordered by the Kaibab-Paiute, Havasupai, and Hualapai reservations, so I assume these tribes are the ones that would claim that land.
What gives them any more claim to it than the Anasazi?

I know, the Anasazi are all dead and gone. Well, so are all the Paiute and others who had the land before the palefaces took it from them. None of the present ones, were even born at that time.

So why do ANY of them have any claim?
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Old 10-25-2012, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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What gives them any more claim to it than the Anasazi?

I know, the Anasazi are all dead and gone. Well, so are all the Paiute and others who had the land before the palefaces took it from them. None of the present ones, were even born at that time.

So why do ANY of them have any claim?
Because the government gave them the land and made them live there?

Of course now that someone thinks there is money to be made, 'they' want it back.

Not going to happen.
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