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Old 10-28-2012, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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The states are free to pass transportation bills anytime they want....
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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6 of the top 10 States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid are Republican States, so please tell your own party before you blame Obama.

Like New Mexico, a poor state with two national labs and three Air Force bases.

Or Texas, another state with a large military presence.

Or Louisiana. Or North Dakota.

It isn't a red or blue equation, but a basic algebraic equation.

See the pattern and the connection? It is basic math and accounting: fixed costs are variable to the extent the units of production or the allocation base varies.

A small area with high incomes may actually receive more dollars on an absolute basis and still receive less per dollar paid. Or like DC, the largest net beneficiary in the country on a per capita basis, it simply has so much procurement spread across a small base that it could never be a net contributor.

California, with 40 million people, has a much larger overall base.

And now you know...
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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The states are free to pass transportation bills anytime they want....
Such as?
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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That's funny. The infamous "Big Dig" project was birthed when Dukakis was Mass. gov. Dukakis was gov from 1975-1979 and then from 83-91. Big Dig officially broke ground in 1991 after a lengthy planning/wrangling period.

It was supposed to cost $2.8 billion and eventual cost, including interest, has been estimated at $22 billion by the Boston Globe.

Transportation generally is a big problem area these days. Right now in Seattle we are in the process of replacing a worn out bridge that crosses Lake Washington and connects Seattle to Bellevue and other Eastside burbs.

The new bridge is projected to cost about 18 times what the old bridge cost (inflation adjusted). The old bridge was built in 1963, pretty much pre-computer, infancy of finite element analysis, etc. But the cost not only didn't go down, it went up not double, not triple, but almost 20-fold. And the new bridge offers little functional improvement. It does add a bike lane. How do we explain this???? Well we have a lot of Democratic elected officials in Washington state.
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:41 PM
 
Location: CHicago, United States
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I think the Republicans decided that frustrating the President's attempts to create more jobs via improvements to infrastructure was more important than creating jobs. Emphasizing his "failure" (which they contributed to) was more important. They've turned from being the "loyal opposition" to "anti-American values" party.
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Find the money and then we'll talk.
Yeah we have no money for this, but we do have the money for another huge tax cut.
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Old 10-28-2012, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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I think the Republicans decided that frustrating the President's attempts to create more jobs via improvements to infrastructure was more important than creating jobs. Emphasizing his "failure" (which they contributed to) was more important. They've turned from being the "loyal opposition" to "anti-American values" party.
Anything Obama is for, they HAD to be against.

Even things they were for previously.

It's disgusting, and it's one of the main reasons I'm voting for Obama again this time.
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Old 10-28-2012, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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Such as?
Anything they want. Highways. Bus systems. Trains. Anything.
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Old 10-28-2012, 07:02 PM
 
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I think the Republicans decided that frustrating the President's attempts to create more jobs via improvements to infrastructure was more important than creating jobs. Emphasizing his "failure" (which they contributed to) was more important. They've turned from being the "loyal opposition" to "anti-American values" party.
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Anything Obama is for, they HAD to be against.

Even things they were for previously.

It's disgusting, and it's one of the main reasons I'm voting for Obama again this time.
really? obama stimulus package was supposed to be for shovel ready jobs, and YET virtually NONE of the money went to infrastructure projects, unless you consider frisbee golf courses and turtle tunnels infrastructure. obama also spent a ton of money on "green energy" and what happened? those businesses went OUT OF BUSINESS. the money basically went to obama supporters. those billions could have gone to infrastructure also. obama IS a failure.
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Old 10-28-2012, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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really? obama stimulus package was supposed to be for shovel ready jobs, and YET virtually NONE of the money went to infrastructure projects, unless you consider frisbee golf courses and turtle tunnels infrastructure. obama also spent a ton of money on "green energy" and what happened? those businesses went OUT OF BUSINESS. the money basically went to obama supporters. those billions could have gone to infrastructure also. obama IS a failure.
It's funny you mention that. Look at my second post about a valuable piece of infrastructure his stimulus caused to happen here, with no local match at all, and what the local 'Republicans' did to it.
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