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There is no protection of privacy to be found in the constitution.
One cannot, for instance, grow marijuana in the backyard and claim "right to privacy", nor can a serial killer take people home and end their lives, and claim that "his home is his castle".
There are protections against searches without warrants or consent, and against self-incrimination, and it is true that a woman could not be compelled to speak.
There are however other investigative methods that could be utilized to learn the truth - and protect innocent life.
"Right to Privacy" is an invention of the Warren court - it is a figment of certain justices imagination.
There is no protection of privacy to be found in the constitution.
I didn't say it was Unconstitutional . I said it was illegal.
Please show me where in the Constitution where it talks about speeding laws.
Please show me where in the Constitution where it talks about illegal drugs
Please show me where in the Constitution where it talks about child pornography.
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One cannot, for instance, grow marijuana in the backyard and claim "right to privacy", nor can a serial killer take people home and end their lives, and claim that "his home is his castle".
I never said it was a constitutional issue. I said it was illegal to force a woman to reveal personal and private information (this is Invasion of Privacy / Expectation of Privacy).
You're the one that brought in the straw man argument.
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There are protections against searches without warrants or consent, and against self-incrimination, and it is true that a woman could not be compelled to speak.
There are however other investigative methods that could be utilized to learn the truth - and protect innocent life.
Seeing as the innocent life is the woman, yes she should be protected. Her fetus is not alive, nor does it have any rights.
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"Right to Privacy" is an invention of the Warren court - it is a figment of certain justices imagination.
so you won't mind that we invade your medical records to see what kind of medication you are on?
I didn't say it was Unconstitutional . I said it was illegal.
I know what you said - and the difference between something being illegal and unconstitutional - is that something can be made legal by changing the law, while something that is unconstitutional requires amending the constitution in order to make a change.
That is why I said that a new law could be drafted.
If you agree that it is currently merely illegal to enact that proposal - then what are we arguing about?
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I never said it was a constitutional issue. I said it was illegal to force a woman to reveal personal and private information (this is Invasion of Privacy / Expectation of Privacy).
"Expectation of privacy" is considered to be a constitutional principle - even though it can't be found in the constitution. It forms the basis for why current law makes that particular proposal illegal - so it most certainly is a constitutional issue.
Unless you are agreeing with me that invasion of privacy is not in the Constitution - and in that case you should seriously reformulate your opinion on Roe v Wade.
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so you won't mind that we invade your medical records to see what kind of medication you are on?
No need to - I am not on medication.
Speaking of records - when is President Obama going to release his college transcripts?
There is no protection of privacy to be found in the constitution.
One cannot, for instance, grow marijuana in the backyard and claim "right to privacy", nor can a serial killer take people home and end their lives, and claim that "his home is his castle".
There are protections against searches without warrants or consent, and against self-incrimination, and it is true that a woman could not be compelled to speak.
There are however other investigative methods that could be utilized to learn the truth - and protect innocent life.
"Right to Privacy" is an invention of the Warren court - it is a figment of certain justices imagination.
You need to find better sources. The SCOTUS was recognizing the right to privacy in some degree or another going back to the 1920's, and is also well established in common law.
I know what you said - and the difference between something being illegal and unconstitutional - is that something can be made legal by changing the law
and the person or persons who advocates changing privacy laws to force people to reveal private and personal information will be those who will be derided and won't be voted for again. When people are saying that there is TOO much government invading are personal lives, don't expect the public at large to be supportive of such legislation.
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That is why I said that a new law could be drafted.
could be, but no politician worth his political career would commit that type of career suicide.
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Unless you are agreeing with me that invasion of privacy is not in the Constitution - and in that case you should seriously reformulate your opinion on Roe v Wade.
I never said it was and Roe V. Wade explains their decision quite clearly.
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No need to - I am not on medication.
but if you were, Would want that information to be publicly available? That you may have gotten Gonorrhea in college?
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Speaking of records - when is President Obama going to release his college transcripts?
You need to find better sources. The SCOTUS was recognizing the right to privacy in some degree or another going back to the 1920's, and is also well established in common law.
I never mentioned birtherism - I just want to know when the president is going to release his college transcripts.
where do you think the claim of college transcripts came from? birthers. based on the April Fools joke of 2009 that he attended Occidental on a foreign scholarship.
did you read the thread I linked to. Your answer can be found on the first page of the thread.
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