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Old 11-06-2012, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Do you tell Democrats to move to Israel too?
If they whine about how we're abandoning poor Israel (after 65 years of unrewarded and inexplicable favoritism) then yes, I do.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:55 PM
 
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So if Mexico lobbed missiles into Arizona and New Mexico on a daily basis, sent suicide bombers into the USA to murder innocent civilians, and stated that the USA didn't have a right to exist, you'd want the US government to do what exactly?
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:01 PM
 
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So if Mexico lobbed missiles into Arizona and New Mexico on a daily basis, sent suicide bombers into the USA to murder innocent civilians, and stated that the USA didn't have a right to exist, you'd want the US government to do what exactly?

If mexico had the same ability as iran then I wouldn't be worried, Iran has a horrible accuracy with their missiles that all they can do is take pot shots at isreal. If anything I'd be more angered with isreal while trying to talk and make peace with many of the middle eastern countries all the while the right wing leader of isreal is going about stealing people's property and disobeying an order from us TO STOP DOING THAT ! As to your question of what we should do with Mexico if they decided to attack Arizozona and N.M. I'd say let them take Arizona and arrest Arpaio Or we could simply do the diplomatic thing and try reasoning with them and get them to be our ally instead of our enemy.
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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So if Mexico lobbed missiles into Arizona and New Mexico on a daily basis, sent suicide bombers into the USA to murder innocent civilians, and stated that the USA didn't have a right to exist, you'd want the US government to do what exactly?
Start by giving them back Arizona and New Mexico, which should be theirs anyway. But who cares even if Israel is really in the right? It's not our business.
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Old 11-06-2012, 06:17 PM
 
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So...why should the USA attack Iran instead of trying peaceful ways?
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:55 AM
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The Obama Administration was just busted again selling-out our ally, Israel.

Valerie Jarrett, also known as “Obama’s Brainâ€, has been meeting surreptitiously, behind the backs of Congress, behind the backs of Israel, with representatives of Iran’s supreme leader, Ali Khamenei. The meetings have been going on for months.

YNet News reported:


So...is this your last post here? Just curious.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:31 PM
 
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Still waiting for jt800 to make a post-election appearance. C'mon jt. We can all be friends.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:47 PM
 
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Only thing I liked about Obama is the fact he wants to talk with Iran instead of just bomb them...Lol at the whiner about israel being an ally...what kind of ally attacks their allies ship and tries to sink it?
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Start by giving them back Arizona and New Mexico, which should be theirs anyway.
Them?

Just who exactly is "them?"

By "them" do you mean Mexicans? To which Mexicans are you referring?

The Spanish Mexicans?

The French Mexicans?

The Anglo-Saxon Mexicans?

The Belgian Mexicans?

The Italian Mexicans?

The Portuguese Mexicans?

The Mestizos? And which Mestizos? The Spanish/Indians, the British/Indians, French/Indians etc etc etc?

And which tribal groups?

Acatecs
Amuzgos
Chatinos
Chiapanecas
Chichimecas
Chicomuceltecs
Chinantecos
Chochos
Ch'ols
Cochimis
Cocopas
Coras
Cuicatecos
Guarijios
Huastecos
Huaves
Huichols
Ixcatecos
Jacaltecos
Kickapoos
Kiliwas
Kumiais
Lacandons
Mams
Matlatzincas
Mazahuas
Mazatecs
Mixes
Mixtecs
Mochos
Nahuatl/Mexicas
Oaxaca Chontals
Opatas
Otomis
Paipais
Pame
Pima Bajos
Popoloca
Popolucas
Purepechas
Seris
Tabasco Chontals
Tacanecos
Tarahumaras
Tectitecos
Tepehuas
Tepehuans
Tlahuicas
Tlapanecs
Tojolabals
Toltecs
Totonacs
Triques
Tubars
Tzeltals
Tzotzils
Yaquis
Yucatec Mayas
Zapotecs
Zoques

Why would you give Arizona and New Mexico to the Yucatec Mayas when they had never been there, and never even knew it existed? You might want to do some research before looking foolish.

And that is relevant how, exactly?

Let me get this straight: it's cool if British, Dutch and Germans rebel against the British Crown for independence; and it's cool if Spaniards rebel against Spain for independence (which they did in 1810)... but it is not cool if Texas rebels against Mexico?

Can you say hypocrite?

The rebellion that started in 1810 finally ended around 1821, with the establishment of a new constitution in 1824.

Now, I'll reveal the facts that you deceitfully omitted:

1] Santa Anna abolished the constitution in 1835 and moved Mexico from a federal republic to a centralized unitary State --- the very same thing that Liberals have been trying to do for decades in the US....and that might be grounds for rebellion -- ya think?

2] Texas was not the only Mexican Republic (State) to declare independence. The Republic of Yucatan also declared its independence for the exact same reason Texas did.

3] Five other Mexican Republics (States) also declared independence (Mexico was established as a federal republic).

4] In total, seven Mexican States declared independence.

5] Since there were 24 Republics (States), the 7 Republics (States) represent ~30% of all Mexican Republics (States).

You make it sound like Evil Anglo Whitey started it, when the facts clearly paint a different picture. So why would you give something back to Mexicans, when they clearly never wanted to be part of Mexico and rebelled to get away?

Historically...

Mircea
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There's nothing wrong with having talks with Iran.

HOWEVER, Congress is supposed to be informed

And that's not to mention that you should probably mention it to your closest ally in the region who's very existence may be threatened.
Well, if the OP knew about these talks, presumably Congress does, too!
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