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Old 11-07-2012, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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were we told last night and again this morning: Obama is going to work with both sides or the aisle? Now, this, well who will win, Reid, Romney or nobody?
Obama made that same promise immediately after being elected in 2008 but the first time the Republicans stood up to him and his Senate leaders he told them to go to hell and will do it again.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Typical of the Left wing party. Don't like the rules or you can't play by them? CHANGE THEM!
The country can no longer thrive by Repubs who obstruct all progress because they are bitter, jealous, old, white men who would rather be angry than do anything constructive for our country.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:22 PM
 
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The country can no longer thrive by Repubs who obstruct all progress because they are bitter, jealous, old, white men who would rather be angry than do anything constructive for our country.
Ummmmm... Harry Reid supported the change to where it is now when HE was in the minority. What do you call Reid's obstructionism? Patriotism?
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It was an evil to change the filibuster rules in the first place. It should not have been done. If a Senator feels strong enough about a bill to filibuster, let him or her do it like the old times (one of the best, if I recall, was Strom Thurmond).

This saying "I filibuster" and then going out for drinks is disgusting.
As evil as that method is it what has been used for all of the opening years of the 21st Century and it seems to me that Harry Reid did it all the time before 2007 when he took over.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:25 PM
 
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So OP, the conspiracy to make Obama a one term POTUS and working that pathetic agenda, is not a glaring red flag and smoking gun to you as to which party sabotaged the nation's progress? Are you really that obtuse or is it there another bizarre reason?
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It was an evil to change the filibuster rules in the first place. It should not have been done. If a Senator feels strong enough about a bill to filibuster, let him or her do it like the old times (one of the best, if I recall, was Strom Thurmond).

This saying "I filibuster" and then going out for drinks is disgusting.
My favorite filibuster came from Huey Long in the 30s when he read things like his favorite recipe for making put likker and the like. He went for 15 1/2 hours with that one. I loved to see them bring in the cots and meals so they could stay in session to keep the speaker going.

The filibuster is one of the best things to come out of the Senate up to the time they just declared one of them and then went about their business.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:28 PM
 
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So OP, the conspiracy to make Obama a one term POTUS and working that pathetic agenda, is not a glaring red flag and smoking gun to you as to which party sabotaged the nation's progress? Are you really that obtuse or is it some other bizarre reason?
Stay on topic. Obama needed and needs to go still. He's a complete and utter failure, but hey, that's what Americans like these days I guess. It seems Harry Reid was working to make him a one termer too by all the obstructionism he displayed.
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:29 PM
 
Location: On the Group W bench
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Oh, man, I HATE when majority rules. So undemocratic, so unconstitutional.

The founding fathers totally wanted a minority in the Senate to run the entire country, they just forgot to put it into the Bill of Rights, so the Senate took care of it for them a little later, and the GOP perfected it in historic, unprecedented fashion when the black man was elected to the White House.

Cry me a river. If you're so uneducated to not understand what's been going on for the last 4 years in the Senate, go get a grip and come back when you do.

The history of the filibuster, in one graph - The Washington Post
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:37 PM
 
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Oh, man, I HATE when majority rules. So undemocratic, so unconstitutional.

The founding fathers totally wanted a minority in the Senate to run the entire country, they just forgot to put it into the Bill of Rights, so the Senate took care of it for them a little later, and the GOP perfected it in historic, unprecedented fashion when the black man was elected to the White House.

Cry me a river. If you're so uneducated to not understand what's been going on for the last 4 years in the Senate, go get a grip and come back when you do.

The history of the filibuster, in one graph - The Washington Post
Yep, you wanted it this way when it benefited you, like Harry Reid, but now, it has to go right?
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Old 11-07-2012, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Ummmmm... Harry Reid supported the change to where it is now when HE was in the minority. What do you call Reid's obstructionism? Patriotism?
But Harry is in charge now and what he once supported doesn't benefit him or his side.
so now it's bad.

It's a pity that people wearing their partisan glasses don't see this for what it is.
Harry backed the bill because it worked in his favor THEN, not because it was good for Congress.
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