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If nobody trains you to take opportunity when offered, if the mindset isn't there - it's the rare person who can overcome that. Just like I suspect I'd have a hard time developing a "very wealthy" mindset if the lottery dropped $50 mill in my lap. (Not that I play, but...)
Thank you for the link. A cute little piece that took me back thirty years.
The problem is that so many people can't remember what poverty was. They can't fathom not having "stuff". It reminds me of the time my son came to me (he was probably 7 or so). Our microwave went out. The child was in a panic. I told him it would be okay, there was a time, and at that time it wasn't that long ago) that there wasn't anything in existence as a microwave. His reply, "How did you cook?" He had never lived in a time without microwaves, color TV or cable. He was appalled at the thought that his mother had been born in a house with no indoor plumbing nor running water. (We had an old cold water pump in the kitchen sink). He couldn't fathom a rotary dial phone, nor gasp, the crank phone and party lines. So while part of this guys "theory" that the poor perpetuate the bad habits again and again may be true. I think so many people THINK they're poor when they're actually not. They may not have as much as someone else in the way of stuff, but its only because they've never actually had to live in a world without that stuff being around. Food, housing, clothing... if you can provide those three essentials to your family your not poor. The truly poor are the ones who can't provide those three...
We already destroyed this nonsense months ago--but I'm seeing the same old drivel once again--people aren't really poor or in poverty unless their licking fungus off the walls and wiping their asses with dirt.
Please. Nobody here knows how these people obtained their wonderful "luxuries" like a refrigerator, washer\dryers, or entertainment devices. You can buy a VCR for $5 friggen dollars, an Xbox for $100--and for all you know, these things could have been purchased before people fell into poor-hood in the first place.
Keep hatin', Conservatives, it's worked brilliantly for you so far.
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We already destroyed this nonsense months ago--but I'm seeing the same old drivel once again--people aren't really poor or in poverty unless their licking fungus off the walls and wiping their asses with dirt.
Please. Nobody here knows how these people obtained their wonderful "luxuries" like a refrigerator, washer\dryers, or entertainment devices. You can buy a VCR for $5 friggen dollars, an Xbox for $100--and for all you know, these things could have been purchased before people fell into poor-hood in the first place.
Keep hatin', Conservatives, it's worked brilliantly for you so far.
The question should be, when someone falls into "poor-hood" as you put it, what happens next? Do you sell the X-box for 50 to feed your family for the week, or do you go out and buy the game to put in it?
We already destroyed this nonsense months ago--but I'm seeing the same old drivel once again--people aren't really poor or in poverty unless their licking fungus off the walls and wiping their asses with dirt.
Please. Nobody here knows how these people obtained their wonderful "luxuries" like a refrigerator, washer\dryers, or entertainment devices. You can buy a VCR for $5 friggen dollars, an Xbox for $100--and for all you know, these things could have been purchased before people fell into poor-hood in the first place.
Keep hatin', Conservatives, it's worked brilliantly for you so far.
I'm thinking you don't know what poor means.
$100 (for an X Box) is a very very big expense for the truely poor and those riding the thin line of it.
Hell...spending $5 takes a lot of consideration for those scrimping.
The question should be, when someone falls into "poor-hood" as you put it, what happens next? Do you sell the X-box for 50 to feed your family for the week, or do you go out and buy the game to put in it?
If your paycheck can feed your family, you don't need to sell material possessions necessarily to do so--but since you ask...
I'm thinking you don't know what poor means.
$100 (for an X Box) is a very very big expense for the truely poor and those riding the thin line of it.
Hell...spending $5 takes a lot of consideration for those scrimping.
I defer you back to--you don't know where those "luxuries" came from to begin with. In case you haven't noticed, our economy fell into a hole a few years ago--and many more people fell into poverty along with it--including middle class families.
"For decades, the U.S. Census Bureau has reported that over 30 million Americans were living in “poverty,” but the bureau’s definition of poverty differs widely from that held by most Americans. In fact, other government surveys show that most of the persons whom the government defines as “in poverty” are not poor in any ordinary sense of the term. The overwhelming majority of the poor have air conditioning, cable TV, and a host of other modern amenities. They are well housed, have an adequate and reasonably steady supply of food, and have met their other basic needs, including medical care. Some poor Americans do experience significant hardships, including temporary food shortages or inadequate housing, but these individuals are a minority within the overall poverty population."
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I'm thinking you don't know what poor means.
$100 (for an X Box) is a very very big expense for the truely poor and those riding the thin line of it.
Hell...spending $5 takes a lot of consideration for those scrimping.
Exactly! Choices. We all know that the truly poor have no options. Those that are truly the most needy need help, and we conservatives (at least all the ones I know) are more than happy to oblige. But if someone tells me they are in need, yet they put their personal wants ahead of their needs... well...
I always find the amusement of people who don't actually know any poor people, yet are bonafied experts on how luxurious they have it :-P. All of the poor friends I have don't have that many of modern amenities, most have bare bones cell phones, most have no cable, and quite a few have no air conditioning.
I believe that there are 2 types of poor people.
1. people that are poor and need some help and just cant get by without some help.
2. the 2nd class of poor people are those that scam the system, they believe that the goverment owes them something because they have not learned how to close their legs and now have 15 kids by 11 different dads or moms. they think the gov owes them everything because they have not figured out how to make a living even though they could have gotten a free education but quit at age 14 to have their 2nd child.
this type of poor person can go out and suck an egg.
You can't compare poor in America with poor in Haiti.
You also shouldn't compare poor in NYC with poor in small rural southern cities.
Everyone has "stuff". We're a consumer economy for crying out loud.
A lot of the poor don't have new stuff; they have all that stuff that others throw out every 3 years because they need the latest and greatest, not because it broke.
But what you see is not the whole story. So many are living paycheck to paycheck and that includes those not considered poor.
As a nation we've been convinced that it's good to buy stuff with our extra money, not to save it and invest it for the future or a rainy day.
A government is a reflection of it's people. Look at the state of the government. Its people are in that same state.
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He had never lived in a time without microwaves, color TV or cable. He was appalled at the thought that his mother had been born in a house with no indoor plumbing nor running water. (We had an old cold water pump in the kitchen sink). He couldn't fathom a rotary dial phone, nor gasp, the crank phone and party lines. So while part of this guys "theory" that the poor perpetuate the bad habits again and again may be true. I think so many people THINK they're poor when they're actually not. They may not have as much as someone else in the way of stuff, but its only because they've never actually had to live in a world without that stuff being around. Food, housing, clothing... if you can provide those three essentials to your family your not poor. The truly poor are the ones who can't provide those three...
