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Old 11-13-2012, 07:00 PM
 
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Here is one of the big problems the republican party has in running with the Tea Party. While all of its members are not racist, those who are allowed to make public displays like this completely unfettered and unopposed by the other members of their group cause all of them to be tarred with the same brush.

We have seen this same scenario with the CBF being co-opted by the neonazis and KKK and flown alongside flags with swastikas. The image of the two together is what sticks in the minds of those who see it, and all the talk in the world about "Heritage" won't bring back an untarnished view again.

There is no longer room in America for racism. The new generation of voters don;t care about a person's race or gender. The republicans would do well to ponder that before the next election.


racist teaparty signs - Bing Images

Will you people stop telling us what we need to do. We know what we need to do - we need to defeat the Dems.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:07 PM
 
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I think the problem with the Tea Party is that they are now a damaged brand. While they are great to gin up the base they aren't very attractive to people outside of the usual gravity of the Republican party.

It is always a tradeoff between what you want politically and what you can get politically.

Democrats have been willing to make these tradeoffs. You don't see a Dennis Kucinich winning a nomination for the U.S. Senate in Ohio.

On the other hand the Tea Party wing of the party doesn't want to compromise on anything and they end up losing winnable races as a result.
At least they have some integrity.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Why is the left so afraid of the Tea Party that they never attack what the Tea Party stands for - small government, low taxes, government accountability - and instead falsely play the race card in a dishonest attempt to associate them with racism?

It is the ultimate strawman - and absolutely pathetic.

C'mon liberals - if the Tea Party is so bad - then argue against them on the merits of their positions - not by attacking them with lies and slander.

Be honest for once.
Here is some honesty for you.
The fat guy in front of the sign operates TeaParty.org. The photo was taken at the height of the tea party mania in 2009.

‘N-Word’ Sign Dogs Would-Be Tea Party Leader | The Washington Independent

But it's not just Obama they hate. How about this tasty tidbit about some of their own?

Congressional Black Caucus: Tea Party racist, Allen West and Herman Cain 'oreos' - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

I guess if you're gonna be a racist, you might as well be an equal opportunity racist and hate 'em all.

I could like similar stuff all night long. These are just 2 that came up from a 20 second Google search I did just now.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:18 PM
 
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At least they have some integrity.
If you say so...




Now Libertarians, those are people with some consistency.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
Here is one of the big problems the republican party has in running with the Tea Party. While all of its members are not racist, those who are allowed to make public displays like this completely unfettered and unopposed by the other members of their group cause all of them to be tarred with the same brush.

We have seen this same scenario with the CBF being co-opted by the neonazis and KKK and flown alongside flags with swastikas. The image of the two together is what sticks in the minds of those who see it, and all the talk in the world about "Heritage" won't bring back an untarnished view again.

There is no longer room in America for racism. The new generation of voters don;t care about a person's race or gender. The republicans would do well to ponder that before the next election.


racist teaparty signs - Bing Images
You are confusing a group whos name means "Taxed Enough Already", with people who took up that mantle as part of their social conservative platform.

There is nothing wrong with saying that you are taxed enough already. That you think there is needless government spending that should be cut before taxes go up.

That is as valid an argument as anything else. The TEA party isn't racist, but many racist and closet social conservatives joined the movement.

The idea of the Taxed Enough Already crowd is fine for the Republican party to keep. Wha they need to drop is the social conservative agenda.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Willard. Pushing grandma off a cliff. Binders full of women. Nonsensical abortion scare tactics. War on women. Big Bird. Romnesia.
Obama ran a campaign straight out of a middle-school mean girls' play book. The most childish presidential campaign of my lifetime.
How people depict Obama personally is there own thing. Still a free country at the moment.
The Romney campaign didn't put it out there.



I'm under 40. I've lived in places where I was in a 10% minority. I've lived in extremely diverse neighborhoods. I've spent a significant amount of time working in impoverished minority neighborhoods. I've met the best, kindest people ever in those places.
None of that means I have to agree with them politically. I look at them and truly believe that they would be better off free from the shackles of the democratic party.
Mitt dug his own hole to fall in. The party didn't help a bit with their constant crying Socialist/Communist/Kenyan/Muslim/birther/Marx/Hitler/Mussolini/Stalin/destroy the country/War on Women BS. Nobody bought what they were selling.

I'm 60. You'll grow up one day and understand more and life will be better. I promise.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Why is the left so afraid of the Tea Party that they never attack what the Tea Party stands for - small government, low taxes, government accountability - and instead falsely play the race card in a dishonest attempt to associate them with racism?

It is the ultimate strawman - and absolutely pathetic.

C'mon liberals - if the Tea Party is so bad - then argue against them on the merits of their positions - not by attacking them with lies and slander.

Be honest for once.
The pictures speak for themselves. No lies, no spin, no strawmen. You cant spin what people are looking at.

If the Tea Party wants to be taken seriously, it needs to have an enema and purge itself of its racist membership like the ones in the pictures. if it refuses, the only purpose it will ever serve is to make the voters believe that republicans are all racist.


BTW - I am all for cutting spending, starting with the Pentagon budget, say 50% for openers.
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Old 11-13-2012, 07:38 PM
 
Location: The land of infinite variety!
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Some statistics on the TP.

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Tea Party Statistics

Total percentage of tea party members who say the U.S. government is moving toward socialism 90%
Total percentage of tea party members who say the government should take a more active role in job creation 70%
Total percentage of tea party members over the age of 55 40%
Total percentage of tea party members who think of themselves as christian fundamentalists 44%
Total percentage of tea party that identify themselves as "born-again" 33%
Total percentage of tea partiers that are employed 56%
Total percentage of non-hispanic white tea party members 79%
Total number of people who attended the nationwide tea parties 6 million
Tea Party Statistics | Statistic Brain

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When surveying supporters or participants of the Tea Party movement, polls have shown that they are to a very great extent more likely to be registered Republican, have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party and an unfavorable opinion of the Democratic Party.[166][172][173] The Bloomberg National Poll of adults 18 and over showed that 40% of Tea Party supporters are 55 or older, compared with 32% of all poll respondents; 79% are white, 61% are men and 44% identify as "born-again Christians",[174] compared with 75%,[175] 48.5%,[176] and 34%[177] for the general population, respectively.
Tea Party movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Imo, it may be time for the centrists to form a counter party to the TP.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:15 PM
 
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I don't how many times I got to say it, but you don't drop voters. If the GOP dropped the tea party, then many of its members would vote Democrat, third party or not vote at all. Republicans would never make up for those kind of losses by getting more independents. They tried this election to distance themselves from the tea party, they destroyed all the tea party candidates, it didn't work. Doubling down is not going to help either.

That doesn't mean a GOP candidate can't be moderate right. The tea party is perfectly willing to support a moderate right candidate, but only if it is seems like that candidate support the tea party as well.
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Old 11-13-2012, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Cape Coral
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Here is some honesty for you.
The fat guy in front of the sign operates TeaParty.org. The photo was taken at the height of the tea party mania in 2009.

‘N-Word’ Sign Dogs Would-Be Tea Party Leader | The Washington Independent

But it's not just Obama they hate. How about this tasty tidbit about some of their own?

Congressional Black Caucus: Tea Party racist, Allen West and Herman Cain 'oreos' - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

I guess if you're gonna be a racist, you might as well be an equal opportunity racist and hate 'em all.

I could like similar stuff all night long. These are just 2 that came up from a 20 second Google search I did just now.
Do you really think that searching the internet is factual proof of the Tea Party being racist? Did you ever go to a Tea Party rally? They are all about love of country, love of God and each other, small government, less regulations, opportunity for the individual to succeed. Obama does not fit into the likes of a conservative. Conservatives don't like him. It has only to do with his ideology not his skin color. To suggest different makes you the racist.
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