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Old 11-25-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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Regarding the "jobs they create" they are provided the means to create those jobs by the US Government and the citizens. They create because we allow them to and they think they can make a buck.
We allow them? lol.

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Nobody owes them any thanks.
Yea, no-one owes the rich a thanks for contributing and no one owes charities for organizing the charities. Just remember that when no one gives and there is no freebies when you need help.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Wrong. All third world nations have the poor and the rich. The middle class is the foundation of this nation.
Very poor and very wealthy are natural states of any economy. Governments create the middle class mass.
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Old 11-25-2012, 09:52 AM
 
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Very poor and very wealthy are natural states of any economy. Governments create the middle class mass.
Government creates the middle class with what?
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Did I say that? If you don't like your pay rate and you have more marketable skills then find a better paying job. Just be sure to negotiate a better pay rate the next time. And if they pull out the gun and put it to your head and demand that you work for them like Walmart must have done.... RUN... RUN!

Do you mind being a pawn to help contribute to political welfare class?
You are, of course, aware of WalMart's tactics? Move into an area and undersell the local stores until they go under, then hire the owners and employees because there is nowhere else left for them to work?

Do a bit of research, and you will find out how America is being screwed to the wall. Every time a sale rings up in WalMart, every American gets a portion of the bill to pay in food stamps and health care for the employees.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: North America
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No, it's just because they can't be trusted. They have provided a long history of evidence. Regarding the "jobs they create" they are provided the means to create those jobs by the US Government and the citizens. They create because we allow them to and they think they can make a buck. Nobody owes them any thanks.
So billionaires who have pledged to donate tens of BILLIONS of dollars to charity "can't be trusted"?

Wow. Now THAT is the anger and bitterness that I am talking about.

And that entrepreneur who spent years working 90 hours per week and putting his employees payroll on his and his wife's personal credit cards and who delivered merchandise to customers himself out of his own station wagon in the early days....

...explain how the goverment and the citizens "allowed" that businessman to be successful.

Where was the government and the citizens when he was up at 3:00 a.m. trying to finish a customer's order?

Funny how when the entrepreneur is risking everything for his or her enterprise the government and the "citizens" are nowhere to be found (except in the government's case to regulate the poor entrepreneur out of business if it could).

But once the hard-working business creator tastes a bit of success then BAM here come the pencil-pushers and the gimme, gimme liberals to both suck the life out of the young company and tell the owner how "evil" he is for trying to turn a little profit.

This is what sickens many Americans about liberalism.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:09 AM
 
Location: None of your business
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You are, of course, aware of WalMart's tactics? Move into an area and undersell the local stores until they go under, then hire the owners and employees because there is nowhere else left for them to work?

Do a bit of research, and you will find out how America is being screwed to the wall. Every time a sale rings up in WalMart, every American gets a portion of the bill to pay in food stamps and health care for the employees.
It doesn't matter... Obama is putting the finishing touches to take out the little guy anyway. If Obama increases taxes on the small business owners the Walmart's will certainly be the only thing left.

If you voted for Obama, you do realize that the expiration of the Bush tax cuts on small business will hurt them if not put them out of business and you voted to help Walmart achieve exactly what you don't want.

Don't you see the plan play out but you march right in step.

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Old 11-25-2012, 10:12 AM
 
Location: North America
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What's sad is that we've come to a point where this question even needs to be asked.

Of course they should. Moreover, they once did. In the 1950s, during the longest sustained period of economic growth in US history, the top marginal tax rate was 91%. Today, it is only about 1/3 of that. Once, almost 2/3 of the US government's operating budget was paid by corporate taxes. Today, 2/3 of the US government's operating budget is paid by individual taxpayers; corporations only pay about 10-12%. Wanna know why we are in the mess we're in? A big part of the reason is the rich don't pay taxes anymore.
Yeah...darned rich people!

All they do is pay the most taxes, provide nearly all of the jobs and donate the most money to charity.

They are SO evil.
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:14 AM
 
Location: On the border of off the grid
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Let's not forget Ann Romney's $1000 blouse or Sarah Palin's $180K campaign wardrobe, charged to the RNC.
The taxpayers didn't pay for Ann Romney's blouse OR Sarah Palin's campaign wardrobe. Needless to say, both of those fine and respectable ladies didn't waste taxpayer money on a $2,250 outfit for our FLOTUS to go out looking like a hooker on MTV:



What an embarrassment!
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Old 11-25-2012, 10:17 AM
 
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The taxpayers didn't pay for Ann Romney's blouse OR Sarah Palin's campaign wardrobe. Needless to say, both of those fine and respectable ladies didn't waste taxpayer money on a $2,250 outfit for our FLOTUS to go out looking like a hooker on MTV:
What an embarrassment!
Trashy, no class, I thought it was a black Madonna at first. The first lady dressing like that! See, even a super expensive outfit can look trashy.

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Old 11-25-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: North America
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Why do the uber wealthy need to be encouraged to give? " The Giving Pledge is a campaign to encourage the wealthiest people in the United States to make a commitment to give most of their wealth to philanthropic causes."

Rockefeller and Carnegie didn't need to be encouraged to give and what they gave, adjusted for inflation, dwarfs what this pledge has raised.

One thing I noticed, Romney, Adelson, Paulson, Bob Perry, and Rove are missing from their list. Is anyone from Bain Capital on the list.
Yeah because there were no charitable organizations during the 19th and early 20th century encouraging Rockefeller and Carnegie to donate $$$...sure.

They just woke up one day and donated their money without outside encouragement.

And, you're right, since EVERY rich person isn't on that particular list that means EVERY rich person is stingy and hates the poor. Yeah, right.

BTW, I didn't know Karl Rove was a billionaire.
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